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    • jeff hammondJ Offline
      jeff hammond
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      @honoluludesktop said:

      Jeff, If your Mac can save the day, any chance of it being a OpenGl problem? I was even thinking that if the problem were mind, I would even try turning off "file checking on opening".

      honestly, i have no clue why i can open it πŸ˜„

      fwiw, i didn't get one of those "don't panic! your model has a problem but it's fixable" messages .. (or whatever that message says)

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        jhearcht
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        Jeff

        I got my hopes up, only to be dashed again. When I started to download the files I got an error message : "Invalid Menu Handle". And nothing was received. Do you have any idea what the new problem is? Maybe you could ZIP the file and send it that way?

        PS---While I was struggling with the effects of intermittent power supply voltage drops, I seriously researched a new Mac to replace my 6 year old PC. But a new power supply fixed the sudden crash issue, and I reconsidered the feasibility of changing horses in mid-project. My 65 year old brain had enough problems learning to draw with these new-fangled computer thingies. So learning a whole new system might cause my personal power supply to overheat and crash.

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          jhearcht
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          @honoluludesktop said:

          Jeff, If your Mac can save the day, any chance of it being a OpenGl problem? I was even thinking that if the problem were mind, I would even try turning off "file checking on opening".

          Hono

          I tried turning off the <<Use Hardware Acceleration>> option under OpenGL, but it didn't seem to make any difference. Where can I find the <<File Checking on Opening>> option? In System Preferences I see under <<General>> a check box to <<Automatically check models for problems>>. Is that what you are referring to? BUG-SPLAT saved a couple of backups due to "minor messups". Why should I turn it off when I'm having corruption problems?

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          • jeff hammondJ Offline
            jeff hammond
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            @jhearcht said:

            Maybe you could ZIP the file and send it that way?

            zipped, uploaded, and link PM'd

            @unknownuser said:

            So learning a whole new system might cause my personal power supply to overheat and crash.

            haha!

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            • J Offline
              jhearcht
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              Apparently in my hasty attempt to download, the <<Open With>> box was checked instead of <<Save>>. So it seems that the <<Invalid Handle>> message was generated by SketchUp.

              I have now successfully downloaded the file. But when I open it in SU6 or SU7, it immediately stops responding. Sounds like a minor code error in the script header. Can that be fixed with Ruby or another code editor?

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              • jeff hammondJ Offline
                jeff hammond
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                what about the separate gargoyle file? with that one, i copied it out of your big model and pasted it into it's own new file..

                if you can't open that one then i'd assume you have a bigger problem than corrupted files ❓

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                • honoluludesktopH Offline
                  honoluludesktop
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                  Just on the chance that <Automatically check models for problems> caused the crash. If you could only open the file, you might be able to purge it.

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                  • AnssiA Offline
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                    One thing that might be worth a try would be to import the old file as a component in a new, clean file.

                    Anssi

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                    • J Offline
                      jhearcht
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                      Jeff

                      The gargoyle file opened without any drama, so you have saved me several hours of trying to figure out how to sculpt a fire-breathing dragon. The real thing will be done by a sculptor, but for now the extruded version will serve the purpose. BTW the UAB football and basketball teams are called the Blazers, get it? πŸ˜‰

                      I tried to <<Purge>> and <<Fix Problems>> before the newly opened file locked-up, but it seems to p-o the OS during the loading process. The <<Invalid Handle>> must be specific to Windows. I suppose in order to make a component of the file, I'd have to be able to open it first, and that ain't working.

                      Thanks for all your help, guys. I'll just back-up and start over again with the old file. At least I don't have to redo the dragon. The sad part is that I was finally becoming productive on this project when the crashing started. Since I only use SU about once a year, it takes me a while to relearn how it works. It's like Groundhog Day (the movie) for me, I keep doing the same things, over & over, until I finally get it right. 😒

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                      • jeff hammondJ Offline
                        jeff hammond
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                        hold on.. i'll copy past the whole drawing into a new file and send it over.. gimme like ten minutes

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                        ok, check your pm again.. you should have the whole thing now that can be opened on your system..

                        this is one heavy model though and even though i can open it, it's sluggish.

                        Edges	3741462
                        Faces	371568
                        Component Instances	10802
                        Guides	7
                        Guide Points	130
                        Groups	19413
                        Images	0
                        3d Polylines	0
                        Section Planes	0
                        Dimensions	0
                        Text	0
                        Component Definitions	75
                        Layers	7
                        Materials	71
                        Styles	5
                        
                        

                        i purged it and brought it down to 2.7MB instead of 12.5

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                          jhearcht
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                          Jeff

                          I'm afraid the old Mac magic just ain't working for this cursed file. The latest re-save lasted a few moments longer before the screen started to tremble and lock-up. I appreciate your help, but I suppose we both need to get back to something more productive.

                          As for the file size, I probably need to learn how to make leaner drawings. But I'm deliberately using photo quality plants and such, because the presentation will need as much curb appeal as possible . . . for potential donors and benefactors.

                          I've never tried it before, but I plan to insert a site photograph into the background. So that will be a learning experience. And may add even more to the file size. When it's not not-responding though, SU seems to work reasonably fast on my old system with as much memory as it will hold.

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                            @anssi said:

                            One thing that might be worth a try would be to import the old file as a component in a new, clean file.

                            Anssi

                            Even after I found an earlier backup that was stable enough to work with, it also began locking up after a couple of hours. So I tried your suggestion, and made a component of the model, then imported it into a clean file. So far, knock on wood, it seems to be back to normal. Thanks for the tip.

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