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    • jeff hammondJ Offline
      jeff hammond
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      @jhearcht said:

      the dragon gargoyle is the main thing I'm interested in.

      oh, you mean this guy? πŸ˜‰

      gargoyle.jpg

      i'm not sure why this works but i'm 2 for 2 now.. so yeah, if anyone has a busted up .skp, get it to a mac asap.

      [edit -- hmm.. John, i tried emailing the files but it was kicked back.. check your PM]

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      • honoluludesktopH Offline
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        Jeff, If your Mac can save the day, any chance of it being a OpenGl problem? I was even thinking that if the problem were mind, I would even try turning off "file checking on opening".

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        • jeff hammondJ Offline
          jeff hammond
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          @honoluludesktop said:

          Jeff, If your Mac can save the day, any chance of it being a OpenGl problem? I was even thinking that if the problem were mind, I would even try turning off "file checking on opening".

          honestly, i have no clue why i can open it πŸ˜„

          fwiw, i didn't get one of those "don't panic! your model has a problem but it's fixable" messages .. (or whatever that message says)

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          • J Offline
            jhearcht
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            Jeff

            I got my hopes up, only to be dashed again. When I started to download the files I got an error message : "Invalid Menu Handle". And nothing was received. Do you have any idea what the new problem is? Maybe you could ZIP the file and send it that way?

            PS---While I was struggling with the effects of intermittent power supply voltage drops, I seriously researched a new Mac to replace my 6 year old PC. But a new power supply fixed the sudden crash issue, and I reconsidered the feasibility of changing horses in mid-project. My 65 year old brain had enough problems learning to draw with these new-fangled computer thingies. So learning a whole new system might cause my personal power supply to overheat and crash.

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            • J Offline
              jhearcht
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              @honoluludesktop said:

              Jeff, If your Mac can save the day, any chance of it being a OpenGl problem? I was even thinking that if the problem were mind, I would even try turning off "file checking on opening".

              Hono

              I tried turning off the <<Use Hardware Acceleration>> option under OpenGL, but it didn't seem to make any difference. Where can I find the <<File Checking on Opening>> option? In System Preferences I see under <<General>> a check box to <<Automatically check models for problems>>. Is that what you are referring to? BUG-SPLAT saved a couple of backups due to "minor messups". Why should I turn it off when I'm having corruption problems?

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              • jeff hammondJ Offline
                jeff hammond
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                @jhearcht said:

                Maybe you could ZIP the file and send it that way?

                zipped, uploaded, and link PM'd

                @unknownuser said:

                So learning a whole new system might cause my personal power supply to overheat and crash.

                haha!

                dotdotdot

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                • J Offline
                  jhearcht
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                  Apparently in my hasty attempt to download, the <<Open With>> box was checked instead of <<Save>>. So it seems that the <<Invalid Handle>> message was generated by SketchUp.

                  I have now successfully downloaded the file. But when I open it in SU6 or SU7, it immediately stops responding. Sounds like a minor code error in the script header. Can that be fixed with Ruby or another code editor?

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                  • jeff hammondJ Offline
                    jeff hammond
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                    what about the separate gargoyle file? with that one, i copied it out of your big model and pasted it into it's own new file..

                    if you can't open that one then i'd assume you have a bigger problem than corrupted files ❓

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                    • honoluludesktopH Offline
                      honoluludesktop
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                      Just on the chance that <Automatically check models for problems> caused the crash. If you could only open the file, you might be able to purge it.

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                      • AnssiA Offline
                        Anssi
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                        One thing that might be worth a try would be to import the old file as a component in a new, clean file.

                        Anssi

                        securi adversus homines, securi adversus deos rem difficillimam adsecuti sunt, ut illis ne voto quidem opus esset

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                        • J Offline
                          jhearcht
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                          Jeff

                          The gargoyle file opened without any drama, so you have saved me several hours of trying to figure out how to sculpt a fire-breathing dragon. The real thing will be done by a sculptor, but for now the extruded version will serve the purpose. BTW the UAB football and basketball teams are called the Blazers, get it? πŸ˜‰

                          I tried to <<Purge>> and <<Fix Problems>> before the newly opened file locked-up, but it seems to p-o the OS during the loading process. The <<Invalid Handle>> must be specific to Windows. I suppose in order to make a component of the file, I'd have to be able to open it first, and that ain't working.

                          Thanks for all your help, guys. I'll just back-up and start over again with the old file. At least I don't have to redo the dragon. The sad part is that I was finally becoming productive on this project when the crashing started. Since I only use SU about once a year, it takes me a while to relearn how it works. It's like Groundhog Day (the movie) for me, I keep doing the same things, over & over, until I finally get it right. 😒

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                          • jeff hammondJ Offline
                            jeff hammond
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                            hold on.. i'll copy past the whole drawing into a new file and send it over.. gimme like ten minutes

                            [edit] --

                            ok, check your pm again.. you should have the whole thing now that can be opened on your system..

                            this is one heavy model though and even though i can open it, it's sluggish.

                            Edges	3741462
                            Faces	371568
                            Component Instances	10802
                            Guides	7
                            Guide Points	130
                            Groups	19413
                            Images	0
                            3d Polylines	0
                            Section Planes	0
                            Dimensions	0
                            Text	0
                            Component Definitions	75
                            Layers	7
                            Materials	71
                            Styles	5
                            
                            

                            i purged it and brought it down to 2.7MB instead of 12.5

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                            • J Offline
                              jhearcht
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                              Jeff

                              I'm afraid the old Mac magic just ain't working for this cursed file. The latest re-save lasted a few moments longer before the screen started to tremble and lock-up. I appreciate your help, but I suppose we both need to get back to something more productive.

                              As for the file size, I probably need to learn how to make leaner drawings. But I'm deliberately using photo quality plants and such, because the presentation will need as much curb appeal as possible . . . for potential donors and benefactors.

                              I've never tried it before, but I plan to insert a site photograph into the background. So that will be a learning experience. And may add even more to the file size. When it's not not-responding though, SU seems to work reasonably fast on my old system with as much memory as it will hold.

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                              • J Offline
                                jhearcht
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                                @anssi said:

                                One thing that might be worth a try would be to import the old file as a component in a new, clean file.

                                Anssi

                                Even after I found an earlier backup that was stable enough to work with, it also began locking up after a couple of hours. So I tried your suggestion, and made a component of the model, then imported it into a clean file. So far, knock on wood, it seems to be back to normal. Thanks for the tip.

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