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    • pilouP Offline
      pilou
      last edited by

      Seems this 2 components sufficient? ๐Ÿ˜‰
      As it's 3D volumes, you can flip vertically the second components for have all possibilities! (front / back)
      click image
      sufficient.jpg

      Don't know how are the bottom and finished sides?

      Frenchy Pilou
      Is beautiful that please without concept!
      My Little site :)

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      • simon le bonS Offline
        simon le bon
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        Hi Pilou ๐Ÿ˜‰

        Decompose into these two basic components seems a good idea.
        This way we can work with some simplicity on the problems of overlapping sinusoids. We can may be at the end use yours to make the component I was primarily thinking of in order to avoid any pb of seams

        @unknownuser said:

        Don't know how are the bottom and finished sides?


        http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/cloturetissee009_th.jpg

        close up

        http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/cloturetissee009_b_th.jpg

        Remain to draw these curved and angled sinusoids..

        @+ s

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        • TaffGochT Offline
          TaffGoch
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          Simon,

          Consider how the manufacturer produced the fence. Q: With what did they start?

          A: A length of "wire," with a constant, repeated sine wave. This should be maintained in a 3D model. Keep all of the sinusoidal segments the same length.

          Truly, the sine segments along the top of the fence will be curved, but they should be maintained at the same length. I can demonstrate this evening, when I have some modeling time.

          -Taff

          "Information is not knowledge." -- Albert Einstein

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          • ely862meE Offline
            ely862me
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            @taffgoch said:

            Simon,

            Consider how the manufacturer produced the fence. Q: With what did they start?

            A: A length of "wire," with a constant, repeated sine wave. This should be maintained in a 3D model. Keep all of the sinusoidal segments the same length.

            Truly, the sine segments along the top of the fence will be curved, but they should be maintained at the same length. I can demonstrate this evening, when I have some modeling time.

            -Taff

            So true..i just quit because of that ๐Ÿ˜„ .

            Elisei (sketchupper)


            Before no life was done on Earth it was THE LIFE ITSELF...GOD
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            • ely862meE Offline
              ely862me
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              When i thought i have figured it out ๐Ÿ˜’ ๐Ÿ˜ ,disaster(see how the wires intersect in the left down corner and ..of course ,they are not woven)
              Ex Fen.jpg

              More trials to go ๐Ÿ˜„ .

              Elisei (sketchupper)


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              • pilouP Offline
                pilou
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                @unknownuser said:

                Remain to draw these curved and angled sinusoids..

                When you have flat model
                Curved can be made by the Fredo Scale, no? ๐Ÿ˜‰

                Frenchy Pilou
                Is beautiful that please without concept!
                My Little site :)

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                • ely862meE Offline
                  ely862me
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                  hmm..just..wow..clearly u know some maths .

                  Elisei (sketchupper)


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                  • simon le bonS Offline
                    simon le bon
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                    Wahoo! "bravo" Taff ๐Ÿ‘ _ and I feel the result beautiful ๐Ÿ˜„

                    Now I know it can be done, I want to find the way: with your indications but without open your skp yet.

                    and I'm actually in front of the picture expecting something stand up from my perplexity ๐Ÿ˜’

                    http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/cloturetissee003.jpg

                    I shall come back

                    *simon

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                    • TaffGochT Offline
                      TaffGoch
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                      @simon le bon said:

                      ...and I'm actually in front of the picture expecting something stand up from my perplexity

                      Simon,
                      As I wrote earlier, I had a couple of false starts, until I studied the picture more closely...
                      Wave counting...
                      Each unit/increment is half of a sine wave (crest-to-trough, or trough-to-crest.) I finally recognized that each diamond was 6-units wide, having 5-unit side lengths. Only then would model components fit together properly.

                      -Taff

                      "Information is not knowledge." -- Albert Einstein

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                      • broomstickB Offline
                        broomstick
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                        @simon le bon said:

                        http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/cloturetissee003.jpg

                        I know it's not the subject of this thread, but that image would make a great map with an opacity mask on it ๐Ÿ˜‰

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                        • GaieusG Offline
                          Gaieus
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                          True, I was also thinking about it. You can easily make it tilable horizontally, too - the only problem is that vertically it should be a bit higher so that you could apply it on more various (although of course, still limited) height.

                          Gai...

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                          • simon le bonS Offline
                            simon le bon
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                            Dear Taff,

                            I go slow, step by step. It is so cool to get you as professor ๐Ÿ‘

                            1)how to make a sine-wave.

                            http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ParisianFence001_th.jpg


                            http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ParisianFence002_th.jpg

                            2)anatomy of the braided fence
                            Re I see 6 but not 5 1/2 sine-waves:?: โ“

                            http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ParisianFence003_th.jpg

                            OK we'll see later!

                            3)some testing just to see!

                            http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ParisianFence003_b_th.jpg


                            http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ParisianFence004_th.jpg


                            http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ParisianFence006_th.jpg

                            ..to be continued

                            ๐Ÿ˜‰ simon

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                            • simon le bonS Offline
                              simon le bon
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                              @ely862me said:

                              Mr Simon,watch it, because they are now weaving.

                              ๐Ÿ˜ณ Ely, I don't understand what that means..

                              Well: there is a problem with my previous test.
                              If I use 6 by 6 half waves as shown, the wiring doesn't braid!!!


                              http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ParisianFence006_th.jpg

                              let me see...
                              *s

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                              • ely862meE Offline
                                ely862me
                                last edited by

                                Mr Simon,watch it, because they are now weaving.

                                Edited:Mr Simon,watch it, because they are NOT weaving(braiding). (sorry ๐Ÿ˜ณ not so usual words for me ๐Ÿ˜„ )

                                Elisei (sketchupper)


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                                • ely862meE Offline
                                  ely862me
                                  last edited by

                                  I meant it s not braiding.
                                  U must follow the indication from Taff : 5 by 6(diagonal)


                                  p fence.jpg


                                  cloturetissee003a.png

                                  Elisei (sketchupper)


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                                  • simon le bonS Offline
                                    simon le bon
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                                    Taff, you are right!
                                    And Ely too (you are quicker than me ๐Ÿ˜† )
                                    The diamond need to be done with an odd number of semi waves.

                                    If I take the same wave and use 5 semi waves:

                                    http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ParisianFence007_th.jpg


                                    http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ParisianFence008_th.jpg

                                    that works perfectly.
                                    if I analyze better the fence -( I take a pen an a shit of paper ๐Ÿ˜‰ and draw the wave blindely, just looking to the picture, i discover you are right: 5x5 semi waves!)

                                    A good point
                                    going to next step..
                                    simon

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                                    • Rich O BrienR Offline
                                      Rich O Brien Moderator
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                                      @unknownuser said:

                                      shit of paper

                                      ๐Ÿ˜ฒ

                                      Otherwise an excellent study to compliment Taff's Geodesic Challenge.

                                      Look forward to the 'Loop' mathematics ๐Ÿ˜‰

                                      Rich

                                      Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp ๐Ÿ“–

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                                      • ely862meE Offline
                                        ely862me
                                        last edited by

                                        The beginning was ''almost'' easy..the next step..i dare to say, it ll be the last ๐Ÿ˜† ,but good luck anyway!

                                        Elisei (sketchupper)


                                        Before no life was done on Earth it was THE LIFE ITSELF...GOD
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                                        • ely862meE Offline
                                          ely862me
                                          last edited by

                                          @unknownuser said:

                                          @unknownuser said:

                                          shit of paper

                                          ๐Ÿ˜ฒ

                                          ๐Ÿ˜† ๐Ÿ˜†

                                          Elisei (sketchupper)


                                          Before no life was done on Earth it was THE LIFE ITSELF...GOD
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                                          • simon le bonS Offline
                                            simon le bon
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                                            OOPs!!! ๐Ÿ˜ณ

                                            http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/generalPicts/oh_shit.jpg

                                            OF

                                            http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/generalPicts/sudoku-papier-en-action.jpg

                                            sheet!!! ๐Ÿ˜Ž

                                            ๐Ÿ˜Ž โ˜€ ๐Ÿ˜Ž ๐Ÿ˜Ž โ˜€ ๐Ÿ˜Ž ๐Ÿ˜†

                                            @unknownuser said:

                                            The beginning was ''almost'' easy..the next step..i dare to say, it ll be the last ,but good luck anyway!

                                            I can smell it is the point! Afraid to engage the step ๐Ÿ˜•

                                            s

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