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    • charly2008C Offline
      charly2008
      last edited by

      Probably there are many like me. Some features I can not understand completely.


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      • fredo6F Offline
        fredo6
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        @charly2008 said:

        Probably there are many like me. Some features I can not understand completely.

        Charly,

        There are many ways to do Loft, and this is why there are many options (and there should probably be more).

        1. The Spline methods on the left side:
        • one if simply to link contours by straight lines
        • the second is a junction by Bezier curves with mean slope. In many cases where contours are aligned this is almost a straight line too. But in other situations, it gives a curved shape.
        1. The two icons in the middle are for Cubic Bezier and Catmull Splines. In most cases they give a very similar shape, though Cubic Bezier is usually nicer in the rounding. Catmull, in contrast, is more similar to what you get in Subdivide & Smooth methods.

        2. The two icons on the right side of the Spline method palette: These 2 methods only apply when you have more than 2 contours. The principle is that they link the two extreme contours by B-Spline or F-Spline, using the intermediate ones as a guide for shaping. The generated surface passes through the extreme contours but not thorugh the intermediate ones

        3. The vertex matching palette is about how to match vertices from one contour to the next one. I am still experimenting and will try to improve in this area. The matching can be based on:

        • match vertex to vertex when there are the same numbers (first default)
        • match along the curvilinear distance (second default)
        • match along Cubic or Bezier profiles. The principle is that the spacing between matching vertices is function of the curvature of the contour. I found theoritical cases where this is the correct solution, but in the real world, this may be another story.
        1. The geometry palette is used for 2 purposes currently:
        • generate only the junctions as lines (i.e. no surface)
        • make the junction as SU curves. This allows deforming the shape in a continuous way by moving the contours.
          I plan to add the possibility to construct any part of the mesh (i.e. triangles, quads, junctions only, etc....)

        The best is to play with the options on a given model and see what it gives.

        I agree that this is not straightforward, but keep in mind that there is unfortunately not a single solution to all lofting situations.

        Fredo

        PS: by the way, extremely nice models you designed!! 😒

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        • charly2008C Offline
          charly2008
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          Hi Fredo,

          thank you for your detailed explanation. I'll continue to experiment with getting to know all the options. Your explanation is certainly helpful to all.

          Charly

          He who makes no mistakes, makes nothing

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          • thomthomT Offline
            thomthom
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            I'm getting some errors:

            CurviError.png

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            • fredo6F Offline
              fredo6
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              @thomthom said:

              I'm getting some errors:

              [attachment=0:21a7yfyo]<!-- ia0 -->CurviError.png<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:21a7yfyo]

              Tom,

              Thanks for signaling this problem.
              Would you mind to post the model.

              Fredo

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              • thomthomT Offline
                thomthom
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                @unknownuser said:

                @thomthom said:

                I'm getting some errors:

                [attachment=0:1k817cpu]<!-- ia0 -->CurviError.png<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:1k817cpu]

                Tom,

                Thanks for signaling this problem.
                Would you mind to post the model.

                Fredo

                It's a wee heavy - but I can post the extracted polylines.

                Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                • thomthomT Offline
                  thomthom
                  last edited by

                  Here it is:


                  CurviError.skp

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                  • charly2008C Offline
                    charly2008
                    last edited by

                    Hi Thomas,

                    i welded each line and below the result in Sketchup 8.

                    Charly


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                    • thomthomT Offline
                      thomthom
                      last edited by

                      ?

                      You have to weld the curves for loft to work?

                      Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                      • charly2008C Offline
                        charly2008
                        last edited by

                        Yes this is my experience, otherwise you will have multiple lines.

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                        • thomthomT Offline
                          thomthom
                          last edited by

                          Even more odd - that unwelded needs more distance...?

                          Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                          • charly2008C Offline
                            charly2008
                            last edited by

                            I must correct myself. In your example it works without welding but only if the two lines have a little more distance. Otherwise I get the same error messages. I previously thought the lines would have to be welded. now I've found that it is not so. Sorry, I am ashamed. I was back to cheeky.

                            Charly

                            He who makes no mistakes, makes nothing

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                            • R Offline
                              robert111
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                              charly how to modeling this exemple plz can you make tuto plz, il love yours objet with this plugin


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                              • R Offline
                                robert111
                                last edited by

                                and for this exemple too


                                Ring1.jpg

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                                • charly2008C Offline
                                  charly2008
                                  last edited by

                                  To all who are interested,

                                  My mistake is based on the plugin Extrude Edges by Loft. Here welded edges or corners are required. I realized only now with Curviloft only just a double-click on the edges is necessary to complete the selection. Without the post from Thomas, I would have thought about it.

                                  I could have saved myself a lot of time. You get used sometimes to a particular workflow or action and thought no more about it.

                                  Charly

                                  He who makes no mistakes, makes nothing

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                                  • jeff hammondJ Offline
                                    jeff hammond
                                    last edited by

                                    @charly2008 said:

                                    I realized only now with Curviloft only just a double-click on the edges is necessary to complete the selection.

                                    or, adjust the max edge angle then single click (though in thom's example, the filter needs to be around 130 deg.)

                                    screen 4.jpg

                                    [this feature comes in very handy in certain instances]
                                    [use the tab key for even more filter options]

                                    dotdotdot

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                                    • charly2008C Offline
                                      charly2008
                                      last edited by

                                      Thanks Jeff for your tip.

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                                      • charly2008C Offline
                                        charly2008
                                        last edited by

                                        Hi Robert111,

                                        i will place the tutorial here:

                                        http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=29374

                                        Charly

                                        He who makes no mistakes, makes nothing

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                                          SpookyChick1013
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                                          Hi there Fredo! I've had Curviloft in my plugin folder for quite a while, and only recently figured out how to make it work. (To Whom It May Concern; Thank you all for your tutorials!) Curviloft is an awesome plugin and extremely useful. Once I figured out how to use it, I have had no problems until just recently, (say, a week ago?) when I started getting the following error message:Curvi Load Error.PNG

                                          I think we can safely ignore the matchbox plugin error, as MatchBox is not even installed and has not been for over 18 months (it would not play nice with other plugins so I vaped it...)and Curvi worked fine until after i downloaded and installed the latest version( Curviloft 1.0c, and LibFredo6 35c.) Curvi still works ok for the most part but I have started to get strange behavior from the orthogonal curves setting. As you can see this happened with both of the Orthogonal settingsInterestingly, this did not start until last night. I figured a work-around,What I wanted and got after a work around but I was curious if the reported errors had something to do with it.

                                          Once again, thank you so much for all of your hard work and genius! >hugz'n'cookiez, because I don't have any beer today<

                                          https://kuromatsudriveyards.com

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                                          • charly2008C Offline
                                            charly2008
                                            last edited by

                                            Hi,

                                            a Curviloft Lamp.

                                            Charly


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