1001bit Extrude Problems...

Tim Danaher

I've posted on the 1001bit forum but got no replies, so maybe someone here can help?

I go through the procedure of choosing the profile, then selecting the end of the path and...nothing happens, apart from an empty group appearing in the Outliner.

Anyone got any ideas?

TIA,

thomthom

Open the Ruby Console and see if any error messages appear. If so - report them to the author.

Tim Danaher

Done.

TIG

You can do it several other ways...

Tim Danaher

Thanks, TIG... I can do it with FollowMe and FMAK... the specific question was why 1001bit can't do it.

TIG

FollowMe and FMAK both require the face squarely on the end of the path - 1001-extrude and EEbyFace do not - also EEbyFace works on several unconnected or branching paths - unlike FollowMe etc...
I don't know 1001-extrude - I think it can work with a 'flat' face and place it to suit - have you tried welding the edges into a curve as the path ?
Incidentally my PipeAlongPath or TubeAlongPath scripts would also give you a similar result...

xrok1

i found the 1001bit tools guy doesn't give much support.

pilou

Seems 1001 tools is not appropriated for the Breuer path!
There are "torsions" inside!
It's specifed on the icone tooltip 'without torsion'

Tim Danaher

This is becoming a 'mare...

All I want is a robust, no-hassle extrude-along-path solution for my students... FMAK works, but doesn't smooth the resulting extrusion and 1001bit...

TIG, will try your suggestions... how do I weld the path? Is that a plug-in?

Frenchy... when you say 'torsions'... Have I drawn the various curves in different directions? (Tooltips? I don't got no stinkin' tooltips...)

xrok... indeed...

TIG

My Extrusion Tool set is perhaps too complex for this - find my 'PipeAlongPath.rb' [crai etc] and use that - you don't need a 'welded' path for that tool - just continuous edges/arcs selected - it will make a smooth welded path for you.

I can't believe you survive without 'weld.rb' - get it free from 'Smustard' - select any joined up lines/arcs etc and it makes a polyline curve from them - useful for many of my Extrusion tools that need you to select curves, and also generally making polylines etc for extruding smoothly...

pilou

@ TIM : This is more clear?
Sorry it's in French, but your tooltip is in English

I suppose "no torsion" is meaning without direction changment between different plans

PS I can't believe that you don't know the Plug Weld
Use SU without Plugs is today a sort of task!

pilou

And another thing : calculate of the object result can take some time : so be patient!
You can make your Breuer chair with this 1001 function but you must make it in several part!
So I believe that is not the good function for that!

Tim Danaher

OK, cheers, TIG...

Frenchy... mais j'ai pas de tooltips (sous MacOS X)... pas du tout!

xrok1

i tried it by welding the path first, doesn't work!

@unknownuser said:

All I want is a robust, no-hassle extrude-along-path solution for my students...

i think tig's extrude edges by face will be hard to beat. (even though his extrude tools are all named weird ) should be extrude face along edge... but we can live with it cause they're so damn great!
i usually spend more time trying to figure out the code of what each name means than using the tool

pilou

@unknownuser said:

extrude tools are all named weird

yes

pilou

@ Tim
You see that the calculate is beginning when you can't move the blue cross with the mouse after the click on the beginning curve!

That is not a "torsion" here

PS Sorry I have not MAC and absolut know how it works
But you must have the Help line!

TIG

xrok1

don't pretend you didn't know

TIG

The tools
"Extrude"
"Edges"
"by"
"something"

Edges
Face
Faces
Lathe
Loft
Rails
RailsByFace
RailsToLattice
Vector

As they are a 'set' I have kept the naming quite consistent...

An 'Edge' is a 'Line' in SUp-speak
I know that often these tools need 'Curves', but then these are made from 'Edges'...
The first combines edges with edges
The next extrudes a face along edges
The next uses faces as the basis of the extrusion
The next 'lathes' the edges' curve
The next 'lofts' the edge-sets' curves
The next uses 2/3/4 edge curves as profiles/rails
The next extrudes a face along ditto
The next makes a lattice using ditto
The next extrudes the edges along a vector

How better to describe them ???

Rich O Brien

They make perfect sense to me!

For example, i wish I had a plugin which would allow me to extrude an edge rather than a face along a curved rail. Now that'd be cool!

A sort of Extrude Edge by Rail tool! Hey I could even chose to extrude faces too? Or maybe a lathe like action around an axis?

Damn that'd cool