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    • T Offline
      Tim Danaher
      last edited by

      This is becoming a 'mare...

      All I want is a robust, no-hassle extrude-along-path solution for my students... FMAK works, but doesn't smooth the resulting extrusion and 1001bit...

      TIG, will try your suggestions... how do I weld the path? Is that a plug-in?

      Frenchy... when you say 'torsions'... Have I drawn the various curves in different directions? (Tooltips? I don't got no stinkin' tooltips...)

      xrok... indeed... 😠

      Cheers,

      Tim

      http://vizarch.blogspot.com

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      • TIGT Offline
        TIG Moderator
        last edited by

        My Extrusion Tool set is perhaps too complex for this - find my 'PipeAlongPath.rb' [crai etc] and use that - you don't need a 'welded' path for that tool - just continuous edges/arcs selected - it will make a smooth welded path for you.

        I can't believe you survive without 'weld.rb' - get it free from 'Smustard' - select any joined up lines/arcs etc and it makes a polyline curve from them - useful for many of my Extrusion tools that need you to select curves, and also generally making polylines etc for extruding smoothly...
        πŸ˜„

        TIG

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          pilou
          last edited by

          @ TIM : This is more clear? πŸ˜„
          Sorry it's in French, but your tooltip is in English β˜€

          I suppose "no torsion" is meaning without direction changment between different plans πŸ˜‰

          PS I can't believe that you don't know the Plug Weld πŸ˜„
          Use SU without Plugs is today a sort of task! πŸ’š

          tooltips.jpg

          Frenchy Pilou
          Is beautiful that please without concept!
          My Little site :)

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            pilou
            last edited by

            And another thing : calculate of the object result can take some time : so be patient!
            You can make your Breuer chair with this 1001 function but you must make it in several part!
            So I believe that is not the good function for that!
            torsion.jpg

            Frenchy Pilou
            Is beautiful that please without concept!
            My Little site :)

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              Tim Danaher
              last edited by

              OK, cheers, TIG...

              Frenchy... mais j'ai pas de tooltips (sous MacOS X)... pas du tout!

              Cheers,

              Tim

              http://vizarch.blogspot.com

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                xrok1
                last edited by

                i tried it by welding the path first, doesn't work!

                @unknownuser said:

                All I want is a robust, no-hassle extrude-along-path solution for my students...

                i think tig's extrude edges by face will be hard to beat. (even though his extrude tools are all named weird πŸ˜† ) should be extrude face along edge... but we can live with it cause they're so damn great! 😍
                i usually spend more time trying to figure out the code of what each name means than using the tool 😳

                β€œThere are three classes of people: those who see. Those who see when they are shown. Those who do not see.”

                http://www.Twilightrender.com try it!

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                  pilou
                  last edited by

                  @unknownuser said:

                  extrude tools are all named weird

                  yes πŸ˜„

                  Frenchy Pilou
                  Is beautiful that please without concept!
                  My Little site :)

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                    pilou
                    last edited by

                    @ Tim
                    You see that the calculate is beginning when you can't move the blue cross with the mouse after the click on the beginning curve!

                    That is not a "torsion" here πŸ˜‰

                    PS Sorry I have not MAC and absolut know how it works πŸ’š
                    But you must have the Help line!
                    torsion2.jpg

                    Frenchy Pilou
                    Is beautiful that please without concept!
                    My Little site :)

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                    • TIGT Offline
                      TIG Moderator
                      last edited by

                      😲

                      TIG

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                        xrok1
                        last edited by

                        don't pretend you didn't know 🀣

                        β€œThere are three classes of people: those who see. Those who see when they are shown. Those who do not see.”

                        http://www.Twilightrender.com try it!

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                        • TIGT Offline
                          TIG Moderator
                          last edited by

                          πŸ˜‰
                          The tools
                          "Extrude"
                          "Edges"
                          "by"
                          "something"

                          Edges
                          Face
                          Faces
                          Lathe
                          Loft
                          Rails
                          RailsByFace
                          RailsToLattice
                          Vector

                          As they are a 'set' I have kept the naming quite consistent...

                          An 'Edge' is a 'Line' in SUp-speak
                          I know that often these tools need 'Curves', but then these are made from 'Edges'...
                          The first combines edges with edges
                          The next extrudes a face along edges
                          The next uses faces as the basis of the extrusion
                          The next 'lathes' the edges' curve
                          The next 'lofts' the edge-sets' curves
                          The next uses 2/3/4 edge curves as profiles/rails
                          The next extrudes a face along ditto
                          The next makes a lattice using ditto
                          The next extrudes the edges along a vector

                          How better to describe them ???
                          πŸ˜’

                          TIG

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                          • Rich O BrienR Offline
                            Rich O Brien Moderator
                            last edited by

                            They make perfect sense to me!

                            For example, i wish I had a plugin which would allow me to extrude an edge rather than a face along a curved rail. Now that'd be cool!

                            A sort of Extrude Edge by Rail tool! Hey I could even chose to extrude faces too? Or maybe a lathe like action around an axis?

                            Damn that'd cool 😎

                            Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp πŸ“–

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                              xrok1
                              last edited by

                              @unknownuser said:

                              An 'Edge' is a 'Line' in SUp-speak
                              I know that often these tools need 'Curves', but then these are made from 'Edges'...
                              The first combines edges with edges
                              The next extrudes a face along edges
                              The next uses faces as the basis of the extrusion
                              The next 'lathes' the edges' curve
                              The next 'lofts' the edge-sets' curves
                              The next uses 2/3/4 edge curves as profiles/rails
                              The next extrudes a face along replace ditto πŸ˜‰ profiles/rails
                              The next makes a lattice using replace ditto πŸ˜‰ profiles/rails
                              The next extrudes the edges along a vector

                              i think you answered your own question. i think maybe its the word by or something in all the names i'm not sure but it just always makes me pause and wonder WTF it does. i think your above discriptions would make much better names. πŸ˜„ but its only my opinion and i by no means disrespect you or your abilities to please us all with your work. πŸ˜„

                              β€œThere are three classes of people: those who see. Those who see when they are shown. Those who do not see.”

                              http://www.Twilightrender.com try it!

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                              • TIGT Offline
                                TIG Moderator
                                last edited by

                                πŸ˜„
                                A rose by any other name would smell as sweet...

                                TIG

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                                  xrok1
                                  last edited by

                                  TIG, thank god for the toolbar with the little pictures or i'd be totally lost. 😳

                                  @unknownuser said:

                                  For example, i wish I had a plugin which would allow me to extrude an edge rather than a face along a curved rail. Now that'd be cool!

                                  you can! use extrude edges by rails. pick the edge then the same rail twice, then the same edge again!
                                  or extrude edges by edges.
                                  but if you understood the naming you'd know that. πŸ˜‰

                                  β€œThere are three classes of people: those who see. Those who see when they are shown. Those who do not see.”

                                  http://www.Twilightrender.com try it!

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                                  • Rich O BrienR Offline
                                    Rich O Brien Moderator
                                    last edited by

                                    πŸ‘
                                    You saved me some clicks Rocky, but it looks like i fall into the third class 😲

                                    Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp πŸ“–

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                                      xrok1
                                      last edited by

                                      sorry TIG 🀣

                                      @unknownuser said:

                                      Or maybe a lathe like action around an axis?

                                      for this there's extrude edges by lathe. πŸ˜‰


                                      Capture1.JPG

                                      β€œThere are three classes of people: those who see. Those who see when they are shown. Those who do not see.”

                                      http://www.Twilightrender.com try it!

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                                      • Rich O BrienR Offline
                                        Rich O Brien Moderator
                                        last edited by

                                        🀣

                                        You should render that with a nice bump map πŸ˜‰

                                        Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp πŸ“–

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                                          xrok1
                                          last edited by

                                          quit provoking me! πŸ˜†


                                          Capture1.JPG

                                          β€œThere are three classes of people: those who see. Those who see when they are shown. Those who do not see.”

                                          http://www.Twilightrender.com try it!

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                                          • pilouP Offline
                                            pilou
                                            last edited by

                                            Your Bump is maybe not enough prononced πŸ˜‰
                                            Remember my old one πŸ’š Moi = Moment of Inspiration, a very cool prog! 😎

                                            http://moi3d.com/gallery/images/Pod02.jpg

                                            Frenchy Pilou
                                            Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                            My Little site :)

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