[Plugin] Extrude Edges by Rails to Lattice

olishea

this is seriously amazing! been playing with it for hours now! just a question TIG: is there a way to group separately the "glass panes" from the frame? so the frame is one group and the panes are another......

notareal

Wow, you did it again!

TIG

@olishea said:

this is seriously amazing! been playing with it for hours now! just a question TIG: is there a way to group separately the "glass panes" from the frame? so the frame is one group and the panes are another......

Give the frames and panes different colors - say 'red' and 'glass'.
Edit the group and select a pane.
Right-click Context-menu > Select > All with same Material...
All the panes are selected, Right-click Context-menu > Group.
Repeat for the frames.
You now have the original lattice group that contains two sub-groups - one for the panes the other for the frames.
Re-color them as desired.
One of the reasons I gave a limited 'rainbow' of colors+glass was to avoid long material lists in the dialog which always causes grief when the color you want is off the screen... and as explained above you can always select everything by a material and apply any color/material onto them that you like later on...

simon le bon

playing:

I don't see how I could do the same with else tools
*s

pilou

@unknownuser said:

I don't see how I could do the same with else tools

Maybe 2 faces + path + FFD(or fredoscale)

simon le bon

Thank you so much Dear Tig for this new amazing tool.

@tig said:

Tip
You are prompted to erase coplanar edges if the faces can survive without triangulation divisions.
To ensure that you get 'flat' quad faces make sure that the profiles and rails are identical [perhaps copy them].

Pretty good tip!

@unknownuser said:

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Edit the group and select a pane.
Right-click Context-menu > Select > All with same Material...
All the panes are selected, Right-click Context-menu > Group.
Repeat for the frames.

I wanted to tell this one, but I'm outstripped by TIG

another interesting result is to adjust the depth to 0 in order to get a flat frame
(and use soften & smooth for a simple aspect)

@unknownuser said:

The tool 'EEbyRailsToLattice' was written to do a 3D lattice or the profiles/rails rib-lines as simple separated curves - so you can use them for other things - like 'EEbyFace' using different profiles for different parts...

Extrude Edges by Rails to Lattice + ExtrudeEdgesBy2Faces

Extrude Edges by Rails to Lattice + ExtrudeEdgesByEdges

Extrude Edges by Rails to Lattice + ExtrudeEdgesByEdges + ExtrudeEdgesByRailsByFace

Extrude Edges by Rails to Lattice + Chris Fullmer tools

Extrude Edges by Rails to Lattice + Didier Bur "lines to tubes" (with and without EEbRtL)

etc.. etc..

Vast possibilities

%(#0000BF)[Dear TIG, may I comment ?
-Extrude Edges by Rails to Lattice uses only ExtrudeEdgesByEdges. I would be really cool if we would be able to pick curves the same starting from ExtrudeEdgesByLoft and also from ExtrudeEdgesBy2Faces or from ExtrudeEdgesByLathe !
-Do you think it would be possible to select also the diagonal curves family?]
with my friendly respect, simon.

TIG

Here's an update http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=242239#p242239
It now has 'Diagonals' as an option.
Reversing the order of picking the Rails swaps the direction of the diagonals.
The lingvo files have been updated to match.

olishea

cheers for grouping explanation.I think i clicked select all connected by color or something.....oopsy

fantastic work TIG, hats off!

pilou

As you refine more and more does it possible to generate a "2 colors Checkboard" from the lattice?

I have missed one case

TIG

@unknownuser said:

As you refine more and more does it possible to generate a "2 colors Checkboard" from the lattice? [attachment=0:2q921w1c]checker.jpg[/attachment:2q921w1c]

Pilou !
Maintenant vous 'prenez la pisse' !

However, it would be relatively easy - the panes are stored as an array in the logical order they are made.
We know the number of them down the rail and across the profile.
If the number of profiles is odd then every other one is colored, if it's even then every other one is colored, BUT swapping the rule over at every 'rail' step change...
If you separate out the panes by selecting by material and grouping they will remain ordered.
Then find the group's faces...

group=Sketchup.active_model.selection[0]
panes=[]
group.entities.each{|e|panes<< e if e.class==Sketchup;;Face}
0.upto(panes.length-1) do |i|panes[i].material="black" if i/2==1/2.0; end

Swap "black" for your desired color...
This works for odd-numbers of panes across the profile - I'll leave you to do the line of code to do it for even-numbers...

pilou

I will examine that
I hope that can be input in the ruby console

For the French line does it possible to have the original
because seems the translator gives a very exotic result
something like that!

olishea

lost in translation

TIG

It's actually the same is English !
Even the same word, but without the 'e'.
Means much the same thing, 'faire pipi'...
We say "taking the " = making an unwelcome joke.
A convoluted way of saying someone is making a bad joke at your expense is to say, "You are extracting the urine, aren't you?".
C'est comme 'chier' ?
Noteworthy: to be "ed" is to be drunk [intoxicated] in the UK, but it means very fed-up or in a bad mood in the USA.
In the UK we would used "ed off" to be very fed-up or in a bad mood...
Which confusing is a vulgar way of saying that someone has left unexpectedly [probably in a bad mood] - e.g. "He's ed off !" = He has [just] left here.
Then to be on the '' is to be out on the town drinking.
To be a drunk is a to be a '-head' [pejorative].
To waste something valuable is to ' it up the wall'.
Whilst something of unacceptably low quality is said to be '-poor' !
In construction '****ed' means to be out of plumb - not vertical: e.g. "That door-frame is ****ed".

All very confusing

pilou

Ok I see what do you mean
But that is absolutly not the same in French
That don't exist with this liquid for these meanings!
A very familiar slang can be "vous vous foutez de moi" = you exagerate, you overpass the limits, you take me for a fool...
(or "tu te fous de moi" between best friends )
A convoluted way of saying someone is making a bad joke at your expense is to say
More elegant : "Vous vous moquez du monde", "Vous ne manquez pas d'air", "vous me prenez pour un pigeon, une andouille" etc...
"Vous me faites chier" is the ultimate, insurmontable, for something who is absolutly obstrusive disturbing in the univers of the person!
But very slanguy language indeed!

TIG

So, we both learn how to cuss better in our respective languages !

So, don't mess with me dude !

majid

it is greeeeaaaaattttt TIG. you are killing me slowly grrreaaat. thanx

simon le bon

@unknownuser said:

@unknownuser said:

I don't see how I could do the same with else tools

Maybe 2 faces + path + FFD(or fredoscale)

Hi Pilou

First, using "Extrude Edges by Rails to Lattice"

I had kept the perfect control on the general shape ( I think it's not possible at such degree with FFD or even with Fredoscale )
2)I had presently used a simple grid of rails, so I could do it by hand (erasing unwanted in the skinned shape). I can't imagine to achieve the same on a real large number of curves without the help of EEbRtL ..

Secondly, you are right for Kirill "2 faces + path" which plays in the same playground with "ExtrudeEdgesByFaces"

*simon

simon le bon

@tig said:

Here's an update http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=242239#p242239
It now has 'Diagonals' as an option.

This new tool is already but still growing an absolute "must have". Thank you so much Tig!

@unknownuser said:

Reversing the order of picking the Rails swaps the direction of the diagonals.
very elegant solution indeed

+++simon

pilou

IF I well understand "diagonals" is only for wire

robert111

simn le bon , very nice job , how did you do to have this form plz
can you make tutto ?