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    • Rich O BrienR Offline
      Rich O Brien Moderator
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      Thom,

      First off congrats on a excellent plugin, definitely a labour of love. This looks great so far, and look forward to its release. Would like to see a longer video showing off all it's features, but i realise you must be busy.

      I presume it's dependent on TT_Lib? Now for the obvious question.....

      When can we get our hands on it?

      Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp πŸ“–

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      • thomthomT Offline
        thomthom
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        @unknownuser said:

        First off congrats on a excellent plugin, definitely a labour of love. This looks great so far, and look forward to its release.

        Thank you! πŸ˜„

        @unknownuser said:

        Would like to see a longer video showing off all it's features, but i realise you must be busy.

        I will make more preview videos as development progresses. I'm still very early into the development so there isn't a whole lot more to show right now.

        @unknownuser said:

        When can we get our hands on it?

        I have no idea. πŸ˜‰ All depends on how much time I will have on my hand. I'm at a stage where I have most of the core framework sorted. How for the hard work.

        Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
        List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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          xrok1
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          can't wait! SU will finally be a true modeling program! 😍
          please release it for sale as soon as core is working (what you show in video)we can buy it and get updates as you progress and give you feedback!

          β€œThere are three classes of people: those who see. Those who see when they are shown. Those who do not see.”

          http://www.Twilightrender.com try it!

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          • Chris FullmerC Offline
            Chris Fullmer
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            Looks great Thom!, I would LOVE to see the ability to lock vertices somehow. Specifically in this workflow:

            I often make mounds in the landscape. I'd love to be able to deform the landscape with this plugin, but I need a way to force the entire edge of the mount to not move at all. It needs to meet up with the adjacent concrete surface.

            So if you could build in a way to force some vertices to not move, that would be cool.

            Chris

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            • Rich O BrienR Offline
              Rich O Brien Moderator
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              That's a great idea, kinda like Whaat's 'Crease' tool in SDS, or have I mistaken your suggestion?

              Say I have a sphere and use TOS to draw a circle on that sphere. Can I select the circles face with hidden geometry off and soften the selection within the preselection? So any edit will only happen in that area. Or will I have to manually select edit points?

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                xrok1
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                maybe an option to effect only preselected geometry you want to effect then the vertex edit will only affect the preselected stuff but you can make selection/soft within the pre-selection that way you could do for example landscape just select everything except outside edges beforehand

                β€œThere are three classes of people: those who see. Those who see when they are shown. Those who do not see.”

                http://www.Twilightrender.com try it!

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                • thomthomT Offline
                  thomthom
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                  @chris fullmer said:

                  Looks great Thom!, I would LOVE to see the ability to lock vertices somehow. Specifically in this workflow:

                  I often make mounds in the landscape. I'd love to be able to deform the landscape with this plugin, but I need a way to force the entire edge of the mount to not move at all. It needs to meet up with the adjacent concrete surface.

                  So if you could build in a way to force some vertices to not move, that would be cool.

                  Chris

                  I was playing with the idea of some lock feature - but I wasn't sure it'd be of any use.
                  I take it that the locked vertices are something you'd like to have persistent across sessions?

                  Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                  List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                  • thomthomT Offline
                    thomthom
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                    @unknownuser said:

                    That's a great idea, kinda like Whaat's 'Crease' tool in SDS, or have I mistaken your suggestion?

                    Say I have a sphere and use TOS to draw a circle on that sphere. Can I select the circles face with hidden geometry off and soften the selection within the preselection? So any edit will only happen in that area. Or will I have to manually select edit points?

                    The selected entities in SU will be converted into vertex selection.
                    What about an Isolate command that will constrain editing of the selected vertices?

                    What I'm thinking now is:

                    • Locking feature - which will freeze selected vertices from being editing by Vertex Edit. This is a persistent setting across sessions.
                    • Isolating - only selected vertices will be edited. And this is not a persistent setting. Only for the duration of the tool session.

                    Or would locking be enough? To keep thing simpler?
                    In which case to achieve what rclub24 described:

                    1. Preselect faces of the circle drawn
                    2. Activate Vertex Edit - Selection transferred to VE.
                    3. Invert Selection
                    4. Lock Vertices

                    Ok workflow?

                    Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                    List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                    • thomthomT Offline
                      thomthom
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                      btw - locking vertices would only work within the VE tool. I won't be trying to prevent any other tool from modifying them.

                      Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                      List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                      • GaieusG Offline
                        Gaieus
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                        @thomthom said:

                        btw - locking vertices would only work within the VE tool. I won't be trying to prevent any other tool from modifying them.

                        I would also find this feature useful and would not necessarily mind if it were only locked by VE. Like Chris, when manipulating some terrain model pieces, I also come across the flaws of the Smoove tool for instance that I can never make sure that the edges (which would match the edges of other pieces) are not affected.

                        We'll see.

                        Gai...

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                        • Chris FullmerC Offline
                          Chris Fullmer
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                          Yup, exactly. Smooth is great, but without the ability to lock the edges in place, it often is not entirely useable.

                          I do not even mind if they stay locked between sessions honestly. That would be more of a bonus feature - definitely cool, but not necessary.

                          Chris

                          Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
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                          • thomthomT Offline
                            thomthom
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                            I'm thinking that Locked vertices might even benefit from a "Soft Selection". So that given a radius around the locked vertices they are affected less.
                            ❓

                            Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                            List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                            • jason_marantoJ Offline
                              jason_maranto
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                              Masking Geometry +1... Otherwise looks keen.

                              Best,
                              Jason.

                              I create video tutorial series about several 2D & 3D graphics programs.

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                              • thomthomT Offline
                                thomthom
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                                @jason_maranto said:

                                Masking Geometry +1

                                ❓

                                Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                • jason_marantoJ Offline
                                  jason_maranto
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                                  Locking is sometimes called masking in other apps -- like masking out for painting...

                                  Best,
                                  Jason.

                                  I create video tutorial series about several 2D & 3D graphics programs.

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                                    xrok1
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                                    @thomthom said:

                                    I'm thinking that Locked vertices might even benefit from a "Soft Selection". So that given a radius around the locked vertices they are affected less.
                                    ❓

                                    yes! would prevent a hard transition, but it should be settable in case you want a hard transition or something in between.
                                    this is getting very exiting, any idea when we'll get our first taste?

                                    β€œThere are three classes of people: those who see. Those who see when they are shown. Those who do not see.”

                                    http://www.Twilightrender.com try it!

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                                    • thomthomT Offline
                                      thomthom
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                                      @xrok1 said:

                                      this is getting very exiting, any idea when we'll get our first taste?

                                      Depends on cosmic variables. Such as the Sun. And beer. And BBQ. πŸ˜‰

                                      Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                      List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                      • Chris FullmerC Offline
                                        Chris Fullmer
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                                        Yes Thom, a transition would be idea. I was imagining that maybe the soft selection from the selected points could recognize if they were going to run into locked points. Then it would just decrease their selected % so it was a smooth gradient to the locked point (if that made any sense.... πŸ˜’ ).

                                        Chris

                                        Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
                                        All my Plugins I've written

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                                          xrok1
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                                          @thomthom said:

                                          @xrok1 said:

                                          this is getting very exiting, any idea when we'll get our first taste?

                                          Depends on cosmic variables. Such as the Sun. And beer. And BBQ. πŸ˜‰

                                          by looks of your picture you don't get much sun. 🀣 but lots of beer! πŸ˜‰

                                          β€œThere are three classes of people: those who see. Those who see when they are shown. Those who do not see.”

                                          http://www.Twilightrender.com try it!

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                                          • thomthomT Offline
                                            thomthom
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                                            There some truth to that... πŸ˜’

                                            Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                            List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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