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    • sketchartist023S Offline
      sketchartist023
      last edited by

      @tig said:

      The 'accuracy' setting affects the result... as you have found.
      For simple forms the 'accuracy' of the results will not improve beyond a certain point, no matter what the settings are...
      But otherwise the more 'iterations' the tool does the nearer the result is to being 'true'.
      If you choose a 'more accurate' value, then the 'weight' might become more accurate, and the CofG might adjust very slightly.
      If you have the time... then more iterations gives the most accurate results...
      BUT sometimes the differences are so small it's not worth the delay...
      It's up to you - your model - your time... πŸ€“

      Thanks πŸ˜„ I found that using an accuracy of 5% works quite well with realtime weight on my end using the correct density I found on the internet for the material I use. Works a charm! Helps with configuring shipping information BEFORE having to go to Fedex etc and create real products beforehand so it reduces capital costs for me πŸ˜„ Thanks so much again. I have been within 5lbs accuracy with actual shipping items that I modeled. Just an update πŸ˜„

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      • P Offline
        pazzamnik
        last edited by

        Hey Tig,

        Thanks for the CofG plugin. It has been working quite well, but have one small easy, which I think is easy to overcome. I have drawn an aluminum extrusion and set the aluminum density. The size of the extrusion is 1m in length, so I can know my run length cost/per linear meter.

        Whether I extend the extrusion 1m to 20m in length, CofG always comes back and gives me the same weight? Yet if I copy the meter long extrusion, put a couple bends on it, and run CofG, it gives me a new and hopefully correct weight.

        Wondering if there might b an issue with my group that is causing an issue?

        Thanks.

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        • Dave RD Offline
          Dave R
          last edited by

          What method are you using to extend the extrusion? If you are just scaling the group or component, you aren't updating its definition. If you open the group/component for editing and then modify its length, the definition gets changed and the plugin should give you the results you are looking for.

          Etaoin Shrdlu

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          • jojo9J Offline
            jojo9
            last edited by

            Great plugin! its possible to add some toolbar buttons? i tried but had no luck.

            #--------- menu -----------------------------
            unless file_loaded?(File.basename(__FILE__))
               txt0="C of G..."
               txt1="Find C of G"
               txt2="Composite C of G"
               dir=File.dirname(__FILE__)+"/TIGtools"
               toolname="CofGravity"
               locale=Sketchup.get_locale.upcase
               path=dir+"/"+toolname+locale+".lingvo"
               if File.exist?(path)
                 txt0=deBabelizer(txt0,path)
                 txt1=deBabelizer(txt1,path)
                 txt2=deBabelizer(txt2,path)
               end#if
               submenu=UI.menu("Plugins").add_submenu(txt0)
               submenu.add_item(txt1){CofGravity.new(1)}
               submenu.add_item(txt2){CofGravity.new(2)}
               
            =begin   
              #plus
             	tb= UI.toolbar "Konstruktion"
             	
            	cmd = UI;;Command.new(txt1) {CofGravity.calculate}
            	cmd.small_icon = "../Images/Center_component_lg.png"
            	cmd.tooltip = "Teilmassen Zentrum"
            	tb.add_item(cmd)
            	
            	cmd1 = UI;;Command.new(txt2) {CofGravity.composite}
            	cmd1.small_icon = "../Images/Center_component_lg_sum.png"
            	cmd1.tooltip = "Hauptmassen Zentrum"
            	tb.add_item(cmd1)   
            =end  
            end#if
            file_loaded(File.basename(__FILE__))
            #---------------------------------
            

            sidenote. unable to format my text as code. I get a weird looking format table (please see attachment)

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            • TIGT Offline
              TIG Moderator
              last edited by

              tb = UI.toolbar**.new**("Konstruktion")
              Makes the new toolbar.
              And use: cmd.small_icon = "Images/Center_component_lg.png"

              • assuming Images in in the same subfolder as the loading RB file ?
                You cannot add a new button to a existing toolbar unless you have just made it, OR if the toolbar has been made during the same start-up session AND it has an enduring reference...
                So in some earlier loading file [they load alphanumerically] use something like:
              module MY_STUFF
                ###
                TOOLBAR = UI.toolbar.new("Konstruktion")
                ###
              end
              

              Then in your second file: tb = MY_STUFF::TOOLBAR Which is an enduring reference to the 'MY_STUFF' toolbar entitled 'Konstruktion'...
              You can then add buttons to that toolbar as SketchUp starts - in any later loading script...

              TIG

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              • jojo9J Offline
                jojo9
                last edited by

                TIG, thanks for helping! i got it running, with another loader script, as you said.
                Furthermore, i corrected the call commands.

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                • PockocmocP Offline
                  Pockocmoc
                  last edited by

                  Hi all, I am doing a 3D model in Sketchup 2016 and when trying to use CoG, it gives to me "weight=0.0"... How is it possible?

                  Here is how I do :
                  I create my 3D object, I select it and press "G" to save it as a single component. Then I select it, and I run CoG, applying a density of 7850 Kg/m3 (c40 steel density). It calculates during 5-6 minutes and finally shows 0.0 ...

                  Any idea?

                  Thanks!

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                  • TIGT Offline
                    TIG Moderator
                    last edited by

                    Is it a 'Solid' object in Entity Info ?

                    Without seeing the actual object and the settings you used I can't say what the issue might be.

                    TIG

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                    • PockocmocP Offline
                      Pockocmoc
                      last edited by

                      Hi πŸ˜„ !

                      Well, it seems it is not recognized as a solid, because there is no "volume" entry in the Entity Info box.

                      Here is a picture :

                      http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/522313Prot3.png

                      Thank you.

                      Pock'

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                      • PockocmocP Offline
                        Pockocmoc
                        last edited by

                        Oh, and even with a simple cube, (wich is solid) it does the same : no weight...

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                        • TIGT Offline
                          TIG Moderator
                          last edited by

                          What version do you have ?
                          It should be v1.7 from the SketchUcation PluginStore ?
                          It's 3 years old but works on newer SketchUps anyway...

                          If you run it with the Ruby Console open are there any error messages ?

                          What settings are you using ?

                          What is getting reported exactly ?

                          Obviously the object's size versus the chosen density units can cause small objects to be reported as 0...
                          A small 'blade' probably needs to be in g/cmΒ³ or similar...

                          Here's what I get with a component cube with protruding numerals [v2016].
                          It's a but over 1 mΒ³ with a density of 2000 kg/mΒ³ at the default 1% accuracy setting it returns a true volume in mΒ³ and a weight in kg...
                          A much smaller [scaled] version reports '0' when the overly large units misapplied, but with g/cmΒ³ it's fine...

                          Can you post a simple SKP that has issues so I can test it...


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                          TIG

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                          • BoxB Offline
                            Box
                            last edited by

                            It sounds like you may be creating component, but failing to tick the box that replaces the raw geometry with the component.
                            If there is no bounding box around your object it is just raw geometry, see if the component is in the component browser for you ready to use.

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                            • PockocmocP Offline
                              Pockocmoc
                              last edited by

                              I am so stupid πŸ˜’ ... you are right TIG, it was because of the units, obviously! The blade weights 42 grams, so (0.0)42 Kg .

                              http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/610277poidsnonmasse.png

                              Thank you for all.

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                              • H Offline
                                hute_zhaw
                                last edited by

                                Hi Folks

                                I just installed this plugin into SketchUp 2017. It doesn't work as expected for me. The find CofG still works fine as far as I can tell but the Composit CofG returns a ruby error:

                                Error; #<TypeError; reference to deleted Group>
                                /Users/hute/Library/Application Support/SketchUp 2017/SketchUp/Plugins/CofGravity.rb;670;in `entities'
                                /Users/hute/Library/Application Support/SketchUp 2017/SketchUp/Plugins/CofGravity.rb;670;in `block in do_composite'
                                /Users/hute/Library/Application Support/SketchUp 2017/SketchUp/Plugins/CofGravity.rb;669;in `each'
                                /Users/hute/Library/Application Support/SketchUp 2017/SketchUp/Plugins/CofGravity.rb;669;in `do_composite'
                                /Users/hute/Library/Application Support/SketchUp 2017/SketchUp/Plugins/CofGravity.rb;117;in `initialize'
                                /Users/hute/Library/Application Support/SketchUp 2017/SketchUp/Plugins/CofGravity.rb;817;in `new'
                                /Users/hute/Library/Application Support/SketchUp 2017/SketchUp/Plugins/CofGravity.rb;817;in `block in <top (required)>'
                                SketchUp;1;in `call'
                                

                                Has anybody got a clue how to fix this? It is really a pretty cool plugin and would be a shame if it became unusable.

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                                • TIGT Offline
                                  TIG Moderator
                                  last edited by

                                  Thanks for the bug-report.
                                  I suspect that this is a glitch in the way v2017 handles exploded entities.
                                  I'll investigate and fix it...

                                  TIG

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                                  • TIGT Offline
                                    TIG Moderator
                                    last edited by

                                    Here's v2.0 http://sketchucation.com/pluginstore?pln=CofG Its coding is now compatible with v2017 and it is also signed for use in v2016/v2017 in any loading-policy.

                                    TIG

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                                    • H Offline
                                      hute_zhaw
                                      last edited by

                                      Outstanding work TIG, thanks that was quick, I can confirm it works after the upgrade of the plug-in.

                                      Cheers

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                                      • J Offline
                                        jbkbm
                                        last edited by

                                        The plugin does not seem to be able to detect hollow spaces. Am I doing something wrong? I am trying to find the CoG of steel assemblies but when it calculates the weight, it includes the space between plates and gives me a number much higher than the actual weight.
                                        http://imgur.com/a/bIITC

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                                        • TIGT Offline
                                          TIG Moderator
                                          last edited by

                                          Your image attachment isn't showing.
                                          An object needs to be a sensibly formed 'solid' - as reported in Entity Info.
                                          Otherwise results can be flaky...
                                          'Hollows' are accounted for, if it's a proper solid...

                                          If you attach your SKP we can look at it...

                                          TIG

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                                          • L Offline
                                            lsorrentino
                                            last edited by

                                            Hello All, hello TIG,
                                            I want to calculate the center of gravity of a small magnet, but the calculation always report volume = 0 and eventully weight = 0.

                                            The plugin works perfectly on my pc with larger objects, the density is 7.6 g/cm3, I'm a newbie with sketchup in general, I'm probably doing something wrong 😞

                                            Luca


                                            sketchup file


                                            screenshot


                                            result

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