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    [Plugin] Extrude Edges by Rails by Face

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    • TIGT Offline
      TIG Moderator
      last edited by

      When you draw the 'Profile' face flat on the ground its Y [green] axis is used as the Z up axis of the extrusion. If this extrusion starts flat it is kept at Y [?] πŸ˜•

      TIG

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      • J Offline
        joebamber
        last edited by

        TIG - the other extrusion tools are awesome and i now use them as much as i can,

        But the Extrusion by Rail by Face; just has never worked for me, i've included pictures for you to understand...

        It always says i haven't selected the face and so wont extrude them across either rails or profiles (though as you can see, i defintly did select it),

        I have a MAC pro with sketchup 7 - and on bootcamp in both MAC and PC worlds i get this trouble... 😒


        TIG QUESTION.jpg

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        • TIGT Offline
          TIG Moderator
          last edited by

          It's because your selected Face isn't made 'FLAT' - i.e. it must line flat on the ground, and its Y [green] axis will be taken as the 'UP' direction when extruding it. It doesn't matter if it faces up or down the tool assumes it's facing up anyway!
          Just rotate it about an edge so it's 'flat' on the ground.

          TIG

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          • S Offline
            stefx
            last edited by

            Hi TIG,
            I use a MacBook too and I have the same problem of Morphin_24....have you got any idea to solve that?
            Thank you very much.

            Stef.

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            • TIGT Offline
              TIG Moderator
              last edited by

              stefx

              You can control the number of points in a Bezier curve - as explained in my earlier response.
              Can you give any more info or an example SKP with a failing set of curves ?
              PM or posted πŸ˜•

              TIG

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                stefx
                last edited by

                It is a simple bunch of curves....could you explain how i can manage the segments with the bezier curves?
                thank you very much.

                Stef.


                12~.skp

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                • TIGT Offline
                  TIG Moderator
                  last edited by

                  You don't have Beziers πŸ˜• They are 'Arcs' and you need to use the built-in tool 'Entity Info' to manage those. They have 12 segments which is reasonable. Reduce the face's size/shape to get 'bars' formed...
                  See this illustration for more detailsCapture.PNG

                  TIG

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                    shoeb_cars
                    last edited by

                    you are like right outta a scifi movie mahnnn....awesome
                    RESPECT +++

                    consider me ur fan... β˜€

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                    • J Offline
                      joebamber
                      last edited by

                      Thanks TIG - Noobie error here --> <--
                      πŸ˜„

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                        stefx
                        last edited by

                        Hi Tig,
                        Thank you for your tutorial...
                        managing the number of segments is working...!
                        In my last attempts I see the ribs are really thick.....see the screenshot... 😞
                        basically I cannot have the same result of your first post in this topic..

                        any suggestion?


                        Schermata 2010-08-27 a 13.29.40.png

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                          d12dozr
                          last edited by

                          Stefx, the ribs should be exactly the same size as your square(profile/face) on the ground, so maybe make your profile smaller?

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                          • TIGT Offline
                            TIG Moderator
                            last edited by

                            Ditto.
                            If you look in the picture in the first topic the face is quite tiny compared to the rib spacing...
                            The cross-section of the ribs will be made to match the face.
                            Scale it smaller if needed...
                            Small face >>> thin ribs
                            Big face >>> fat ribs
                            Face long in Y [green] >>> 'tall' ribs
                            Face long in X [red] >>> 'wide' ribs
                            etc πŸ˜’

                            TIG

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                              joebamber
                              last edited by

                              hello TIG ! - I'm trying to make a double curved mesh with only square faces.

                              With 'extrusion by rails'; if more than 1 rail is used; erasing coplanar edges (in the post curve production) cannot make the faces square and do not delete coplanar edges.

                              Do you get this too? (sorry if this another noobie error with these tools)

                              Joe

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                              • jeff hammondJ Offline
                                jeff hammond
                                last edited by

                                Hey Joe,

                                Those lines aren't coplaner so they won't delete without deleting the adjoining faces as well

                                To make a quad, you need at least two of the edges to be parallel. With complex curved surfaces like you're trying create, very rarely will a quad happen and even then, they're sporadically located throughout the mesh.

                                Why do you need quads though if you don't mind me asking?

                                dotdotdot

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                                  joebamber
                                  last edited by

                                  Am trying to get quads so I can use *Paracloud for applying components across a mesh in sketchup, though if I use triangles, I get less control over the application of these components. I could always use soap and skin plugin, and then free-form, but was just wondering if it was possible with TIGs tools, as the curves are more accurate.

                                  Joe

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                                    stefx
                                    last edited by

                                    Tig and the other guys,
                                    sorry for the late!
                                    Thank you for all your help!
                                    trying with small faces, it is working as I need.

                                    Stefx

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                                      lapx
                                      last edited by

                                      Hello Tig,

                                      Will this work with a circle face and diagonal like the lattice by rail. Lattice by rail allows the diagonal. I notice the diagonal dialogue is not a choice with the rail by face.
                                      Is this correct? I would like to have pipes that cross diagonal to each other with glassin between.

                                      Thanks

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                                      • TIGT Offline
                                        TIG Moderator
                                        last edited by

                                        No... but you can use the EEbyRailsToLattice > diagonal edges... and then use the results to extrude the circular face along those paths [tip: add a cpoint at its center and select that too].Capture.PNG
                                        The are also other tools line 'Lines2cyl' or 'PipeAlongPath'that could do the second step in a slightly different way...

                                        TIG

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                                          lapx
                                          last edited by

                                          Thanks Tig,
                                          I got the diagonals from the EEbyrailstolattice but got lost At EEbyface. I would post a screen shot but I got a bugsplat error. Do I explode both sets if diagonals and then use eebyface? When I used eebyface it made the rails orthagonal. I did try the linsetocylinder and got that to worked. I missing one of your steps.

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                                          • TIGT Offline
                                            TIG Moderator
                                            last edited by

                                            You make two groups of diagonals with EEbyRailsToLattice- one for for the two 'directions' - which vary depending on the picked order of profiles/rails.
                                            Edit one groped set of diagonals and you'll find that the curves are also individually grouped.
                                            Select all of the curve-groups and explode them so that the curves are now in the group's context.
                                            Now you can use all of those curves with EEbyFace - HOWEVER, just before that you need to edit>copy the circular face and a center cpoint and edit>paste-in-paste them inside the same context as the curves.
                                            Now 'select all' and run EEbyFace to make one set of diagonal 'tubes' using those curves.
                                            Now, simply repeat the whole thing for the other direction diagonal set of curves...
                                            Finally selected the four profile/rails curves and used those for the third EEbyFace using the original circular face + cpoint to make perimeter 'tubes'! πŸ€“

                                            TIG

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