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    • G Offline
      GreenSaints
      last edited by

      Hello - me again

      I promise when (and if) I get good at Sketchup - I will contribute to this forum!

      The attached picture is of a circular building, spiralling up. When I try to do this in SU - I can make the spiral (or helix - found a great tutorial) but I want the bits that spiral up to be closer together (if that makes sense) like the picture - so basically each floor is attached to each other.

      However, I want like a semi-circle flat on the bottom before the spiralling starts

      Any ideas - your help as always is greatly appreciated

      Thank you


      NMAAHC_02-closeup.jpg

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      • K Offline
        KXI System
        last edited by

        May I ask, where is this?

        A bit more research on the building itself will prove powerful in the end.
        And I have a bit of an idea of how it might turn out...
        Here is a small and quick attempt and I want you to tell me if you like it, I don't want to waste your time with a tutorial that you don't need.
        Spiral.jpg
        Spiral.skp

        Getting the perfect sig is hard...

        Google it!

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        • G Offline
          GreenSaints
          last edited by

          Hey,

          Thanks for your quick response.

          That's about 90% of what I want - just need a flat semi-circle at the bottom and then the spiral to go upwards.

          http://www.bustler.net/index.php/article/proposals_for_the_smithsonians_new_national_museum_of_african_american_hist/ This is the link for the photo. It's a concept for a building by Foster

          Thanks again

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          • K Offline
            KXI System
            last edited by

            I do not have enough pictures, and that link made me from "some-what" confused to ๐Ÿ‘Š
            I'll think about how to model this a bit more effectively after a break.

            Getting the perfect sig is hard...

            Google it!

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            • G Offline
              GreenSaints
              last edited by

              Hey,

              I'm not trying to model that building - I'm designing my own which has taken "inspiration" from that building.

              What you have done is great - I think I can work something out for the semi circle at the bottom.

              How could I make that more curved?

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              • GaieusG Offline
                Gaieus
                last edited by

                Tas, somehow try to visualize that semi circle. I for instance do not know where and how you want to add it - at least post a rough 2d sketch in top view or something, please.

                Gai...

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                • G Offline
                  GreenSaints
                  last edited by

                  @gaieus said:

                  Tas, somehow try to visualize that semi circle. I for instance do not know where and how you want to add it - at least post a rough 2d sketch in top view or something, please.

                  I've taken what KXI posted for me and drawn the semi circle.

                  Where the spiral attaches to the semi circle I want that to join continuously - not sit on top like I have at the minute. Do that make sense?

                  Again, thank you for your help


                  Spiral.skp

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                  • K Offline
                    KXI System
                    last edited by

                    I've updated my model to make it more "round"
                    Spiral.jpg
                    Spiral.skp

                    Getting the perfect sig is hard...

                    Google it!

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                    • G Offline
                      GreenSaints
                      last edited by

                      KXI - thank you for that, it's great

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                      • GaieusG Offline
                        Gaieus
                        last edited by

                        That's exactly and basically the way it should go. If it is a little smoother, the better of course but the theory is what counts.


                        Spiral.jpg


                        Spiral.skp

                        Gai...

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                        • G Offline
                          GreenSaints
                          last edited by

                          Brilliant - that's exactly what I wanted.

                          Now - how did you do it?! ๐Ÿ˜ฒ

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                          • pilouP Offline
                            pilou
                            last edited by

                            Maybe this can be take some idea ๐Ÿ˜‰

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                            If you don't want the increase/decrease of the thickness, just take a simple box ๐Ÿ˜‰

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                            • GaieusG Offline
                              Gaieus
                              last edited by

                              Pilou-Pilou...

                              You know one has to learn to walk first!
                              ๐Ÿ˜‰

                              So as I didn't even have access to any helix plugins (the Ruby Libary depot is down again), the whole thing was dome just manually. ๐Ÿ˜ณ

                              Some easy steps (in fact, after creating that face that we'll spin around in the first step, you could also delete the side of the cylinder to make sure you do not create unnecessary geometry...

                              I don't know what's happening - D0me's picture is uploaded all the time although I definitely choose another one!

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                              Gai...

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                              • J Offline
                                Jim
                                last edited by

                                Here's one way without plug-ins.

                                [flash=640,480:2nrat7h1]http://www.youtube.com/v/lI-2MxTi0YY[/flash:2nrat7h1]

                                Hi

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                                • charly2008C Offline
                                  charly2008
                                  last edited by

                                  Maybe the simplest methode with DrawHelix1.3 and FollowMeAndKeep tool.

                                  -Draw helix with specified measures
                                  -Explode helix and draw the Profile
                                  -FollowMeAndKeep the profile
                                  -Manual correction


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                                  He who makes no mistakes, makes nothing

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                                  • T Offline
                                    tfdesign
                                    last edited by

                                    Can the pitch and diameter be adjusted after a helix is sketched, or modelled? I haven't got this plugin, but I was drawing a helix yesterday in ViaCAD (which is pretty simple to do).

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                                    • TIGT Offline
                                      TIG Moderator
                                      last edited by

                                      A 'helix' is simply a 3D curve - so like anything else it can be Scaled in plan to change its diameter or make it ellipsoidal and in its height to change its 'pitch'...
                                      You can taper it in its height when making it too.
                                      It's so quick to do remaking another helix is easy enough...
                                      Here's an example of a tapered helix of two different sizes and a link flat-arc quickly processed in EEbyRails to give a helical weirdness...Untitled.png

                                      TIG

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