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    • thomthomT Offline
      thomthom
      last edited by

      Cross of the face's normal and the edge normal? If it's '-ve' - what does that mean?

      Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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      • TIGT Offline
        TIG Moderator
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        Sorry- I was too quickly typing that up - I had to go somewhere urgently... 😳
        If you take the vectors of the two edges 'outwards' from the vertex.position you can then get the angle_between them.
        The angle will always be returned as <=180 degrees - even if it's really >.
        If you use edge_vector.cross(face.normal) you get +/-ve values in the result.
        You can then 'cross' these together.
        Getting the cross value returns different results depending on whether the angle is <180 or not - I think it will be 0,0,0 if it's <=180degrees ?
        By noting the appropriate value of the z (?) you can add 180 to the angle if it's found to be needed when z != 0 [-ve?]...
        You'll need to check the way these values change - unfortunately I haven't go access to my 'code-snippets' right now...
        Sorry for the bad explanation - but it is possible to test for angles >180 this way - I have done it... πŸ˜•

        TIG

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          outland86
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          Hello again and thanks for all the input
          to better illustrate what the needs are for this plugin i have drawn a picture of the typical use of these fillets in a bit of sheet material say 3/8 inch MDF
          while T bones would be good they are not critical .
          however the dogbone type fillets are as you can see. t bones are just another way to get the same result.
          when i drew this i noticed that the weld and trim comands were different for the inside square and the outside trims just thought i would note that..as the mathe must be different for both?
          the options shown in the picture would be typical of the actual uses. i have uses a larger arc for this drawing but in real life the arc would be usually say 1/4 inch if cutting 3/8 thickness sheet material say plywood or MDF. i hope this better shows what i am trying to achieve..some of the projetcs i have in mind have hundreds of parts so doing it all by hand with circles etc would be a nightmare hence the need for a plugin to help automate this process. if you imagine when drawing if a guy or gal enter a radius then could point to the coner intersection of a square or inside corner then click and it would be selected then click again and presto a fillet appears one would be in CNC heaven πŸ˜„

          http://www.makecnc.com/bones2.jpg

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          • thomthomT Offline
            thomthom
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            That works for edges on any plane in 3D space?

            Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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            • thomthomT Offline
              thomthom
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              outland86: do you need control over each corner? or would it be ok to just click a face and have the script process all the corners?

              Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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              • TIGT Offline
                TIG Moderator
                last edited by

                @thomthom said:

                That works for edges on any plane in 3D space?

                I used face.normal since these edges will have faces, BUT you could also use a plane defined by the picked vertex.position and the two edges' other_vertex.positions [plane=Geom.fit_plane_to_points(p1,p2,p3)] and then get the plane's normal=[plane[0],plane[1],plane[2]] ???
                Unfortunately this is all from memory... πŸ˜’

                TIG

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                • thomthomT Offline
                  thomthom
                  last edited by

                  think I got it working... hmm.... but I don't have much more time today to test this.

                  Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                    outland86
                    last edited by

                    Hi all

                    to answer your question you do not need control over the parameters other than setting the tool radius before you start

                    so it would be the same every time

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                      outland86
                      last edited by

                      hey it would be perfect to have both options to process all and also indervidual corners
                      can this be done?

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                      • fredo6F Offline
                        fredo6
                        last edited by

                        @outland86 said:

                        hey it would be perfect to have both options to process all and also indervidual corners
                        can this be done?

                        I included a DogBone extension in BezierSpline.
                        This allows to create directly dogbone when drawing a polyline, or to convert an existing contour. You can further change the radius.

                        So it is not a point and click, and more oriented to handle contours.

                        It is advised to install first the new upgrade BezierSpline 1.3, because it now converts a sequence of edges without having to weld them as a curve beforehands.

                        Here is a short video
                        [flash=425,344:2aed5ook]http://www.youtube.com/v/GN6xmiYRi7E&hl=fr_FR&fs=1[/flash:2aed5ook]

                        For BezierSpline 1.3, see http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=323&t=13563&p=100509#p100509

                        Fredo

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                          outland86
                          last edited by

                          thanks for your help so much
                          i did notice that when you apply the dog bone or t bone to a set of poly lines it made them
                          at every single intersection of polylines which is not what is needed only on the inside corners is it needed as that is where the cutting tool raduis is a problem for getting fits
                          the cutting tool can make sharp outside corners no problem .
                          if you take a look at the picture i uploaded you can see which places need dog or t bones in them and which do not
                          is there way to make the script only apply the t or dog bones to inside corners of a drawing as shown in my picture
                          i hope this makes sense?

                          and thanks again for all your help

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                          • fredo6F Offline
                            fredo6
                            last edited by

                            @outland86 said:

                            is there way to make the script only apply the t or dog bones to inside corners of a drawing as shown in my picture?

                            Sorry, this is not really possible with the current design of BezierSpline.
                            You can still select the two edges bordering a vertex and apply the script however.

                            Fredo

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                              outland86
                              last edited by

                              that will work fine. thanks for all your work on this

                              and to you tig thank you for your work and input as well did you end up finishing anything?

                              and to everyone els who took and interest thanks much

                              merry xmas

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                              • thomthomT Offline
                                thomthom
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                                I've also been looking at this over the last week. Haven't had much time to work on it. (Nor can I do much work atm as my right eye isn't too good.)
                                But it touches upon something I've been having problems with before, determining the orientation of edges in relationship to each other. So with a milling tool in mind, I started writing a tool that let you click in a face to create the fillets in appropriate corners.

                                milling_tools_01.png

                                milling_tools_02.png

                                This is still just WIP. Haven't written the code that actually makes the cut.

                                Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                • thomthomT Offline
                                  thomthom
                                  last edited by

                                  WIP alpha version available here: http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=323&t=24826

                                  Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                  List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                  • pilouP Offline
                                    pilou
                                    last edited by

                                    http://www.makecnc.com/bones.jpg

                                    Lighting image for me about the dogs'bones & Tbones β˜€

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                                    My Little site :)

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                                    • thomthomT Offline
                                      thomthom
                                      last edited by

                                      Moved this topic to the Developer section of the forum.

                                      Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                      List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                      • B Offline
                                        Bertier
                                        last edited by

                                        exactly what I need !

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