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    • soloS Offline
      solo
      last edited by

      I did, see LED4 above.

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        Chris_at_Twilight
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        I have a bunch of LEDs in front of me from a Christmas toy I tore apart. It looks like the curve of the acrylic is positioned just right to focus on the emitter, just like a lens. I suspect that distance is important. (Anyone know the IOR of the acrylic? 1.49 is a common acrylic number)

        http://www.TwilightRender.com

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        • N Offline
          notareal
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          There are so meny different materials used so it's safe to use IOR 1.40 to 1.60.

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          • soloS Offline
            solo
            last edited by

            I'm using 1.45, the problem is the cover as having a plastic cover above an acrylic texture slows things down somewhat.
            Not an easy challenge.

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              remon_v
              last edited by

              quick try

              http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b336/remon_v/LED1.jpg

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              • soloS Offline
                solo
                last edited by

                First attempt.


                led3.jpg

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                  remus
                  last edited by

                  Excuse the dodgy kerning.


                  i_heart_indigo2.png

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                    Ecuadorian
                    last edited by

                    Cool reference photo. It would be even cooler to have a LED model like this one (wink, wink).
                    http://www.otherthings.com/blog/images/led_throwies_small.jpg

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                    • Al HartA Offline
                      Al Hart
                      last edited by

                      @unknownuser said:

                      You could shorten it a bit...it's a bit awkward to throw around. 😄

                      I took Solo's LED light strip and made a Dynamic component out of it.

                      If you stretch it the number of lights will change to match the new length.

                      Also, you can right click and change the light spacing or length if you have dynamic components enabled:

                      http://forums.sketchucation.com/download/file.php?id=37377

                      The DC is inside the .SKP file, so you could copy and paste the entire component if you wanted to use it in a different model.


                      LED Light case.skp

                      Al Hart

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                        Ecuadorian
                        last edited by

                        Ok, here's my try with Twilight:

                        I used a very, very darkened HDR as background so the light coming from the LEDs would be the focus of the image. This caused the problem I had already foreseen because I've experienced it many times when taking real photos: If you lower the exposure until you see clearly the shape of the LEDs, the rest of the scene is too dark:

                        Exposure = 1

                        And if you rise the exposure until the rest of the scene looks better, the LEDs themselves become overexposed.

                        Exposure = 2

                        Of course, I could have used a brigther HDR background from the very start (Duh!), but I want to make a point here, so please bear with me.

                        I saved the render as an HDR and opened it in the free program Picturenaut, which is a very handy tonemapper, HDR creator, HDR<->EXR converter, etc. I used a "photoreceptor" type tonemapping with these settings:
                        PictureNaut settings.jpg

                        And here's the result:
                        Tonemapped with PictureNaut.jpg
                        I could have chosen a higher saturation level but I like how it looks.

                        So, which one do you prefer?

                        -Miguel Lescano
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                          Chris_at_Twilight
                          last edited by

                          Your second image looks most realistic to me... LEDs are often overexposed in photos.
                          By the way, what kind of material did you use? The LEDs themselves look really good.

                          http://www.TwilightRender.com

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                            Ecuadorian
                            last edited by

                            Well, in the reference picture I linked to I noticed that LED light comes from:

                            • A small disc inside the casing, which seems to be the source.
                            • Total internal reflection.
                            • Sub-Surface Scattering.

                            So I used the SSS Rubber Ball template (which by default has IOR = 1.4, which seemed adequate after reading the first posts here), made it completely clear with no color, and rendered it with simple MLT (aka "Easy 09"). Perhaps I could have gotten better results with Bi-directional MLT (Easy 10).

                            -Miguel Lescano
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                              thomthom
                              last edited by

                              @ecuadorian said:

                              Cool reference photo. It would be even cooler to have a LED model like this one (wink, wink).
                              http://www.otherthings.com/blog/images/led_throwies_small.jpg

                              Nice reference photo.
                              I had a bunch of LED's next to me when I was trying this out earlier. Kept hot-wiring them to a battery until they got hot.

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                                Ecuadorian
                                last edited by

                                Closer observation of LEDs reveals that only a part of the plastic is actually lit, so here's an update.
                                closeup4.jpg
                                In reality, the lit part starts with a conical shape; I'll try that tomorrow.

                                -Miguel Lescano
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                                • EarthMoverE Offline
                                  EarthMover
                                  last edited by

                                  Miguel...the new one looks better, IMO. I think the "cone of shame" added a lot of realism. Care to post the model?

                                  Here's an attempt with a green LED. Not really happy with it. I used a tiny Vray sphere lighting in each of the LED's. I tried an emitter plane, but it looks crappy. Used a soft water SSS material for the bulb casing. Took forever to render the 202 lights!


                                  l.e.d.jpg

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                                  • R Offline
                                    rev3rse
                                    last edited by

                                    OMG!! A Point-Light for any led, it's a rendering nightmare... 😮

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                                    • thomthomT Offline
                                      thomthom
                                      last edited by

                                      @rev3rse said:

                                      OMG!! A Point-Light for any led, it's a rendering nightmare... 😮

                                      Not if it's just a handful of LED for close ups.

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                                      • olisheaO Offline
                                        olishea
                                        last edited by

                                        i think majid's and earthmover's LEDS are most convincing. majid captured that falloff that you get with LEDS...they act like mini spotlights (well the one on my keyring does anyway). So I imagine loading an IES will work well.

                                        oli

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                                        • E Offline
                                          Ecuadorian
                                          last edited by

                                          OK, this time I modeled a tiny metalic "cone of shame" (he he he) around an even tinier emitter, to better simulate the light source in a LED.
                                          LED Closeup SU.jpg

                                          I'm not sure if I like this image better than the previous one:
                                          closeup5.jpg

                                          Different exposure:
                                          overexposed.jpg

                                          EDIT: Added the model with the cone.


                                          LED Closeup cone.zip

                                          -Miguel Lescano
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                                            Aidus
                                            last edited by

                                            Here is mine:
                                            Test Led
                                            Transparent materials - real glass and that's the only correct material here 😄

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