Internal Kitchen Render - Twilight Easy Low+

xrok1

nice one, about the lights, try to imagine a real fixture and where the bulb would be. usually about 6" below the ceiling. if you still get harsh lighting then dim the lights a bit, try again, repeat...

as far as textures try this http://www.cgtextures.com/.

if you remember my kitchen i beleive all the materials are SU except 1 or 2. but i do have the SU material bonus pack from here: http://sketchup.google.com/download/bonuspacks6.html i'd suggest to DL it. the component packs are good too.

as far as your windows go i suspect you may have two layers, try only one. do you know about back faces? this could also be the culprit.

PS you'll never get a great result until you start using the higher (unbiased) presets, i always use easy 09.

Rich O Brien

Hi Dermot,

Your burning the candle both ends. But definitely paying off, this looks great and i like the dark exterior.

Thanks for sharing

EarthMover

Beautiful modeling my friend. Cabinetry looks great. Not digging the floor though. Looks old and worn out.

One thing you may want to consider is switching the Camera to Two Point Perspective before you render and this will straighten out your vertical lines.

dermotcoll

Thanks for the comments guys

I tried a few changes as per your suggestions - can't get IES to load - when I go into it to load the ones leminilab suggested it still greys out and I cant load any to try them.

System crashed a couple of times on me as well as I dont have a great processor for the bigger models and it is struggling big time with it. I have another in the oven as we speak and I will post the results when its finished. Anyone any tips on this IES problem?

EarthMover

Did you try the collection Frymoro posted on the Twilight forum? Should be able to copy and past lights right from the attached .skp file.

spotlight IES.skp

IES fymoro.jpg

dermotcoll

Thanks earthmover -

I had just about given up when I noticed a tab (From scene) which I hadnt touched before. I was able to upload an Ies file and am looking forward to seeing what comes out - I have set it for Easy Low + just to see what effects have been generated by the changes made then I will cook it over night on Interiors 09.

dermotcoll

Hey Guys

This is taking for ages in the low+ setting - ray tracing is only at 24% after and hour - should this take this long at such a low setting?

solo

Wanna upload the model, so that I can test on my side?

bytor

Hi Dermot,

Sometimes ies files do take a long time. While they can be the most accurate - it is often unnecessary. Here are a couple of very helpfull links from the Twilight site regarding lighting;
http://twilightrender.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=732
http://twilightrender.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=665
It took me a couple of read throughs to fully understand what they are saying - but these are great reference points.

With regards to the materials - remember you can use all of the Kerkythea materials in Twilight as well!
Bytor

leminilab

Hi Dermot,

Have you tried just lowering your omni lights a little ? IES lights are very demanding which may explain your rendering time I think.

Maybe by just lowering your omni and removing the IES...

dermotcoll

Thanks for the comments and guidance guys. Here is the model (compressed) for you to look at and critique.

Thanks

Catherine Harneys.rar

bytor

Dermot,

Wonderfull model! I deleted the lights you had and added som recessed downlights and a fixture I found on the warehouse. I also adjusted some of the material settings and replaced the floor / counter materials. Hope you don't mind - but it was fun to work with someone else's model for an hour or so. Here is a quick npr style to show what I did. I already made some lighting adjustments and have one in the cooker for processing overnight.

Bytor

dermotcoll

Bytor

Thanks so much for the comments. Really love the NPR render finish- have tried to do that myself but didnt work so I didnt post. Can you re upload your finished model so I can see what you did and how you did it?

dedmin

@dermotcoll said:

Bytor

Thanks so much for the comments. Really love the NPR render finish- have tried to do that myself but didnt work so I didnt post. Can you re upload your finished model so I can see what you did and how you did it?

I see You don't make full detailed models of the furniture. Don't You use SketchUp to make cutlist?

dermotcoll

Hi Dedmin

I design and install but I buy in all the carcases. There are carcase companies who are much bigger machinery and I make money designing and installing - it would take me too long to cut, edge and assemble the carcases myself so I leave it to the big guys. All non standard items, I draw detailed working drawings for and either make them myself or again farm out to the big guys. Works well for me.

Thanks for the comments

dedmin

I see - thanks. Here we are using melamine faced boards and also send cutlists to the big guys to cut the panels for us. But we need detailed models of the furniture to have exact dimensions of all the parts.

solo

Dermot, I did a very fast and dirty test, I added lights to the cabinets and kept the dark exterior. I think the cabinet lighting creates interest,
I did a few texture changes, I hope this helps.

Oh, I have a very feint line overlay.

bytor

Hi Dermot,

Just want to say again what wondefully detailed models the cabinets are. Here is both the unaltered render I left in the cooker overnight and while at work today (17.5 hrs total). Also - a second with a slight line overlay - I think it really punches out the details in the cabinetry. Finished model is on it's way via email - too big to post here. Let me know if you have any questions with what I did.

Thanks,
Bytor

solo

Dean, that looks great.

bytor

Thanks Pete! I really love Twilight and how easy it has made using the Kerky engine right inside SU.