Internal Kitchen Render - Twilight Easy Low+

bytor · 12 Nov 2009, 02:44

Hi Dermot,

Sometimes ies files do take a long time. While they can be the most accurate - it is often unnecessary. Here are a couple of very helpfull links from the Twilight site regarding lighting;
http://twilightrender.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=732
http://twilightrender.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=665
It took me a couple of read throughs to fully understand what they are saying - but these are great reference points.

With regards to the materials - remember you can use all of the Kerkythea materials in Twilight as well!
Bytor

leminilab · 12 Nov 2009, 07:22

Hi Dermot,

Have you tried just lowering your omni lights a little ? IES lights are very demanding which may explain your rendering time I think.

Maybe by just lowering your omni and removing the IES...

dermotcoll · 12 Nov 2009, 09:59

Thanks for the comments and guidance guys. Here is the model (compressed) for you to look at and critique.

Thanks

Catherine Harneys.rar

bytor · 13 Nov 2009, 05:44

Dermot,

Wonderfull model! I deleted the lights you had and added som recessed downlights and a fixture I found on the warehouse. I also adjusted some of the material settings and replaced the floor / counter materials. Hope you don't mind - but it was fun to work with someone else's model for an hour or so. Here is a quick npr style to show what I did. I already made some lighting adjustments and have one in the cooker for processing overnight.

Bytor

dermotcoll · 13 Nov 2009, 07:17

Bytor

Thanks so much for the comments. Really love the NPR render finish- have tried to do that myself but didnt work so I didnt post. Can you re upload your finished model so I can see what you did and how you did it?

dedmin · 13 Nov 2009, 09:24

@dermotcoll said:

Bytor

Thanks so much for the comments. Really love the NPR render finish- have tried to do that myself but didnt work so I didnt post. Can you re upload your finished model so I can see what you did and how you did it?

I see You don't make full detailed models of the furniture. Don't You use SketchUp to make cutlist?

dermotcoll · 13 Nov 2009, 09:35

Hi Dedmin

I design and install but I buy in all the carcases. There are carcase companies who are much bigger machinery and I make money designing and installing - it would take me too long to cut, edge and assemble the carcases myself so I leave it to the big guys. All non standard items, I draw detailed working drawings for and either make them myself or again farm out to the big guys. Works well for me.

Thanks for the comments

dedmin · 13 Nov 2009, 09:41

I see - thanks. Here we are using melamine faced boards and also send cutlists to the big guys to cut the panels for us. But we need detailed models of the furniture to have exact dimensions of all the parts.

solo · 13 Nov 2009, 16:50

Dermot, I did a very fast and dirty test, I added lights to the cabinets and kept the dark exterior. I think the cabinet lighting creates interest,
I did a few texture changes, I hope this helps.

Oh, I have a very feint line overlay.

bytor · 13 Nov 2009, 23:06

Hi Dermot,

Just want to say again what wondefully detailed models the cabinets are. Here is both the unaltered render I left in the cooker overnight and while at work today (17.5 hrs total). Also - a second with a slight line overlay - I think it really punches out the details in the cabinetry. Finished model is on it's way via email - too big to post here. Let me know if you have any questions with what I did.

Thanks,
Bytor

solo · 13 Nov 2009, 23:09

Dean, that looks great.

bytor · 13 Nov 2009, 23:22

Thanks Pete! I really love Twilight and how easy it has made using the Kerky engine right inside SU.

dermotcoll · 14 Nov 2009, 00:19

Dean

That is fantastic. Really love the line overlay - Pete did something similar on his. How do you go about applying this overlay. Is it done in Photoshop or within the rendering package?

solo · 14 Nov 2009, 00:39

Dermot

Just export a line style of the model (turn shadows off) and in your image editor overlap the line export with the rendered image. I normally put the lines on top with a transparency (play around 'till you happy)

Make sure to export the line at same aspect ratio as render (I normally render to my screen ratio then export the lines 2x that amount and reduce in PS to the same size as render as that will give sharper lines)

dermotcoll · 14 Nov 2009, 00:46

Hi Pete

Like all things that involve rendering I am very, very new to Photoshop having previously used it to remove redeye from family pictures!!! Is there a tutorial for doing this available online or in the forum archives? Again I apologise for my lack of knowledge!

solo · 14 Nov 2009, 00:50

Here is a good one.

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dermotcoll · 14 Nov 2009, 01:09

Slainte!! I'll get there yet!

fymoro · 19 Nov 2009, 17:41

I just make a test with TL end a bit PP with PS, hope you like it...

Ps: Your team was the best last night...

Richard · 19 Nov 2009, 20:56

@dermotcoll said:

Hi Pete

Like all things that involve rendering I am very, very new to Photoshop having previously used it to remove redeye from family pictures!!! Is there a tutorial for doing this available online or in the forum archives? Again I apologise for my lack of knowledge!

Dermot - mate we ALL start somewhere. Yet the best thing for chaps our vintage, we still learn every day! It's always heartening to see the skills of others develop through the sharing of knowledge!!

Richard · 19 Nov 2009, 21:04

@fymoro said:

I just make a test with TL end a bit PP with PS, hope you like it...

Ps: Your team was the best last night...

Wow!! I'm not normally a lover of blended PR and NPR images but mate that is stunning!