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    • thomthomT Offline
      thomthom
      last edited by

      @unknownuser said:

      @unknownuser said:

      Sorry, but what?

      For Simfonia ๐Ÿ˜‰ (Sorry in French but very visual! ๐Ÿ’š
      See my little animation ๐Ÿ˜„ (you can make the same with the fre version that I use ๐Ÿ˜‰
      Minute 1.16 for lines apparition and the "Shift erase" for hide them minute 3.00

      The normal Clean Up don't works, (the lines come back as soon as the animation restarts) ๐Ÿ˜ฒ

      only the "Shift + erase" works! ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

      So, you want to smooth+soften the edges instead of erasing them?

      In this particular example, since the faces are quads, you can use QuadFace Tools to create soft+smooth triangulation edge.

      Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
      List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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      • pilouP Offline
        pilou
        last edited by

        @unknownuser said:

        So, you want to smooth+soften the edges instead of erasing them?

        Yes something like that but all in one clic! On my animation I had made one by one! ๐Ÿ˜ž
        And you say all are quads , in this example yes, but in general case that can be be any thing!
        I will try your QuadFace Tools

        Frenchy Pilou
        Is beautiful that please without concept!
        My Little site :)

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        • C Offline
          cm1963
          last edited by

          Thom, excellent work. I downloaded and tried to install the plugin the usual manner (downloading directly to Plugins file), but it is still not appearing in the Plugins menue after I restart SU. It also did not work after I dragged and ropped the plugin in the Plugins file after an SU re-start. Please help, I am eager to try this plugin.

          Charle

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          • massimoM Offline
            massimo Moderator
            last edited by

            Any error message in the Ruby console? Do you have also installed the required TT_lib2 as stated in the very first post under "Requirements"?

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            • thomthomT Offline
              thomthom
              last edited by

              Any error messages?
              Can you post screenshots of the files in the Plugins folder?

              Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
              List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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              • john2J Offline
                john2
                last edited by

                Alrighty
                Returned to working to SketchUp after a long time. Iโ€™ve been using this great plugin for years, I would like to resolve one doubt, the coplanar line doesnโ€™t get deleted using the cleanup command. This happens a lot of time during SketchUp. Iโ€™ve faced this issue. Can anyone tell me when does this conflict happen?
                My cleanup tool is otherwise RRRRROCKING. ๐Ÿ˜„ ๐Ÿ‘


                doubt.jpg


                sample for doubt.skp

                Sketchup Make 2017 (64-bit), Vray 4.0 , Windows 10 โ€“ 64 bit, corei7-8750H, 16GB RAM, Nvidia GeForce GTX 1050Ti 4GB

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                • thomthomT Offline
                  thomthom
                  last edited by

                  InternalFace.png

                  Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                  List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                  • john2J Offline
                    john2
                    last edited by

                    @thomthom said:

                    [attachment=0:cjg9atln]<!-- ia0 -->InternalFace.png<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:cjg9atln]

                    oh i see. ๐Ÿ˜ณ This is embarrassing.

                    Sketchup Make 2017 (64-bit), Vray 4.0 , Windows 10 โ€“ 64 bit, corei7-8750H, 16GB RAM, Nvidia GeForce GTX 1050Ti 4GB

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                    • thomthomT Offline
                      thomthom
                      last edited by

                      It's a common thing. I've used it so much now that whenever I see lines that doesn't disappear when I expect them the first thing I do is check for internal faces.

                      Determining what's internal faces is tricky so say the least, do I've not got around to work on a solution for that. Instead I just point to TIG's various tools for cleaning up internal faces.

                      Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                      List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                      • D Offline
                        Dougalmaster
                        last edited by

                        I downloaded and ran the Cleanup 3.1.9 plugin and received a message when it finished that there were 1303 errors and I should contact the author.

                        1303 errors occurred. Please report the error and sample model to the author.

                        1303 - Face merge resulted in lost geometry!

                        How do I do this?

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                        • thomthomT Offline
                          thomthom
                          last edited by

                          Post the model here.

                          Is your model by any change filled with lots of tiny faces?

                          Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                          List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                            Dougalmaster
                            last edited by

                            I'm not able to upload the files. I get the following message:

                            Shed_Frame v2.3.skp => The file is too big, maximum allowed size is 4 MiB

                            The file size is 7.8M each. It is a timber frame shed that is assembled using dovetail mortise & tenon joinery. There really aren't many small faces - at least not many compared to most of the complex models I've seen. I had intended to give you a copy of the file before & after running Cleanup.

                            Is there another way to get you the files?

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                            • arcnhanA Offline
                              arcnhan
                              last edited by

                              amazing, thanks sir ๐Ÿ˜„) ๐Ÿ‘

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                              • john2J Offline
                                john2
                                last edited by

                                @thomthom said:

                                It's a common thing. I've used it so much now that whenever I see lines that doesn't disappear when I expect them the first thing I do is check for internal faces.

                                Determining what's internal faces is tricky so say the least, do I've not got around to work on a solution for that. Instead I just point to TIG's various tools for cleaning up internal faces.

                                can you suggest me some? I really got no idea from his huge list ๐Ÿ˜„

                                Sketchup Make 2017 (64-bit), Vray 4.0 , Windows 10 โ€“ 64 bit, corei7-8750H, 16GB RAM, Nvidia GeForce GTX 1050Ti 4GB

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                                • thomthomT Offline
                                  thomthom
                                  last edited by

                                  I'm not 100% sure my self to be honest - I think there is a handful and I've not used any of them myself. :s

                                  Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                  List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                  • humbertorbH Offline
                                    humbertorb
                                    last edited by

                                    ![Illustration of the problem "lost geometry".](/uploads/imported_attachments/xKrD_Illustration.png "Illustration of the problem "lost geometry".")Hi Thom,

                                    First let me say the CleanUp3 is great, it helps a lot!

                                    Second: I've noticed that when I slide some parts of a model over an existing surface Sketchup tends to create a lot of coplanar triangles on the surface and when I use the CleanUp3 plugin it tends to say: "Face merge resulted in lost geometry!".

                                    I've located one example and reduced the model to a small file with one group that presents this exact problem (attached) in hopes it'll help you perfect this great plugin.

                                    My setup: Sketchup 8 Pro (8.0.16845, on Mac OS 10.6.8) with CleanUp3 3.1.9. All options selected in CleanUp except Merge Identical Materials and running "Merge Faces" both result in lost geometry.


                                    CleanUp3Problem.skp

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                                    • thomthomT Offline
                                      thomthom
                                      last edited by

                                      hm... That is a troublesome model indeed. But you're bound to get trouble with such small dimensions. Your model is just a few mm large, some of these edges are like 2mm or smaller.

                                      To work around this you'd be better off drawing things like 100 or 1000 times larger than what it really should be.

                                      I tried to scale up your model 100 times, but I still got issues. Normally it'd work, but I think your model has already inherited accuracy problems.

                                      Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                      List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                      • thomthomT Offline
                                        thomthom
                                        last edited by

                                        Yea, scaling up 100 times and inspecting the distances, that seemingly flat base isn't flat at all. The model is just too wildly inaccurate that it cannot be cleaned up.

                                        Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                        List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                        • R Offline
                                          richyrich33
                                          last edited by

                                          Great Ruby, CHEERS!!!!

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                                          • humbertorbH Offline
                                            humbertorb
                                            last edited by

                                            So if I understood you well I should work in a larger scale (x100, for instance) and only in the final step reduce it down.

                                            If you want to chase this down I guess even in larger scale models it can happen (see attached).

                                            This model I've converted from an .STL file, cleaned up manually and made sure it is solid.

                                            In hidden edges that are very close (almost parallel) the plugin loses geometry:

                                            ![Before and Aftter "Merge Faces"](/uploads/imported_attachments/b6Hc_example2-cleanup.jpg "Before and Aftter "Merge Faces"")

                                            Cheers and thanks for the response.


                                            Larger scale model that loses geometry too.

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