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    • bagateloB 離線
      bagatelo
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      Wow, what a pity. I am sorry you are sick. Health to you!

      While the cat's away, the mice will play

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      • bagateloB 離線
        bagatelo
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        I think this can be useful: http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=35291

        @bagatelo said:

        I would like to share here a technique to export models from 3dsmax Autodesk to google sketchup using 3ds files.

        Please download the file: DetachElements.mcr in this site:
        http://www.scriptspot.com/3ds-max/scripts/detach-elements

        Then insert this file in the folder:
        C:\Program Files (x86)\Autodesk\3ds Max 2010\Scripts\Startup

        I import the model to be exported into the Sketchup into the 3dsmax, I press on the keyboard Alt+NumPad2 and after this Alt+NumPad3. What do these shortcuts?

        Alt + NumPad2 Separates groups in all elements of the model, using the script mentioned above.
        Alt + NumPad3 Makes 'Reset Xform'.

        After that it's only export to Google Sketchup, that objects do not come all messed up.

        Surely you want to use the plugin CleanUP done by thomthom.

        Thanks..

        While the cat's away, the mice will play

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        • C 離線
          cadmunkey
          最後由 編輯

          Great ruby, just halved the size of my current model. Cheers!

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          • J 離線
            JPMays
            最後由 編輯

            ThomThom,

            I've been having a lot of success with this plugin so far, but I just came across a few problems. First, running Merge Faces on my model deletes geometry, and also it isn't actually merging most of my co planar faces:

            Before running merge faces:

            http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/6093/36578289.jpg

            After merge faces:

            http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/841/77504264.jpg

            See deleted and non-merged faces circled in red.

            Hofstadter's Law: It always takes longer than you expect, even when you take into account Hofstadter's Law.

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            • thomthomT 離線
              thomthom
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              Can you share the model? Or send it directly to me if you don't want it shared in public?
              Without the model it's hard to determine what's going on.

              (The scale of the model isn't very small, is it?)
              And do you have Erase Duplicate Faces on or off? (leave it off unless you have problems with faces overlapping the same space. it's very slow and can be buggy)

              Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
              List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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              • J 離線
                JPMays
                最後由 編輯

                No, the model is not small scale, in fact it's pretty large. No, I have not had erase duplicate faces checked.

                I'll pm you with the file.

                Hofstadter's Law: It always takes longer than you expect, even when you take into account Hofstadter's Law.

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                • thomthomT 離線
                  thomthom
                  最後由 編輯

                  The disappearing faces seems to be related to some rouge faces with area of 0 - or close to. Some very very thing faces which throws off the calculations. I'll see if I can find time this week to find a way to deal with them.

                  The co-planar faces that where not merged: I could not test these as the model you sent appear to be somewhat different that the once you posted screens off. Doesn't seem to include the faces.

                  Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                  List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                  • thomthomT 離線
                    thomthom
                    最後由 編輯

                    SketchUp considers all the edges in these troublesome faces to be all parallel to each other. I might be able to use that as a way to detect potentially troublesome faces.

                    Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                    List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                    • J 離線
                      JPMays
                      最後由 編輯

                      Oops, I must have saved over the model that was having the problems. Sorry.

                      Hofstadter's Law: It always takes longer than you expect, even when you take into account Hofstadter's Law.

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                      • thomthomT 離線
                        thomthom
                        最後由 編輯

                        Well, at least I managed to reproduce the most critical. Disappearing geometry is much worse than some bits that remain.

                        Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                        List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                        • J 離線
                          JPMays
                          最後由 編輯

                          Ok, I sent you a cleaned up version of the file, with reduced geometry (I deleted a lot to reduce file size). Still getting the same problem.

                          I want to merge these two faces:

                          http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/5557/14488237.jpg

                          But when I select them, then go here:

                          http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/4679/91470050.jpg

                          I get nothing. But if I delete one edge, they become a single face, so you know they are co-planar:

                          http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/4448/29294919.jpg

                          Hofstadter's Law: It always takes longer than you expect, even when you take into account Hofstadter's Law.

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                          • thomthomT 離線
                            thomthom
                            最後由 編輯

                            That's because one of them got a material applied to its backside. Tick the Ignore Materials checkbox and it'll merge them.

                            Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                            List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                            • J 離線
                              JPMays
                              最後由 編輯

                              I had thought something like that might be the issue, and so I selected everything and applied a uniform material. I even did Reverse Faces to make sure everything was the same. I also used cleanup to set everything to Level 0, but still couldn't get them to merge.

                              Hofstadter's Law: It always takes longer than you expect, even when you take into account Hofstadter's Law.

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                              • thomthomT 離線
                                thomthom
                                最後由 編輯

                                But you get them to merge when you tick Ignore Material, right?

                                Btw, I think I've trapped the case where faces disappear. Will post an update later this week.

                                Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                • J 離線
                                  JPMays
                                  最後由 編輯

                                  Aha, yes it worked! Thanks Thom.

                                  Hofstadter's Law: It always takes longer than you expect, even when you take into account Hofstadter's Law.

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                                  • N 離線
                                    nosehair
                                    最後由 編輯

                                    thank you!it's very useful!

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                                    • F 離線
                                      firebert85
                                      最後由 編輯

                                      i loaded this plugin into sketchup 8 and its not working, gives me an error message at startup and the plug in cant be found.

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                                      • TIGT 離線
                                        TIG Moderator
                                        最後由 編輯

                                        @unknownuser said:

                                        i loaded this plugin into sketchup 8 and its not working, gives me an error message at startup and the plug in cant be found.
                                        We are not psychics - please post the error message. So far it suggests you have not installed things properly. Can you confirm what files were put in what folders, and the TT_Lib you installed etc...

                                        TIG

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                                        • utilerU 離線
                                          utiler
                                          最後由 編輯

                                          @tig said:

                                          We are not psychics - please post the error message. So far it suggests you have not installed things properly. Can you confirm what files were put in what folders, and the TT_Lib you installed etc...

                                          You sound like I feel, TIG! Bloody big weeks' work and you still get asked silly questions..... 😮

                                          purpose/expression/purpose/....

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                                          • F 離線
                                            firebert85
                                            最後由 編輯

                                            @tig said:

                                            @unknownuser said:

                                            i loaded this plugin into sketchup 8 and its not working, gives me an error message at startup and the plug in cant be found.
                                            We are not psychics - please post the error message. So far it suggests you have not installed things properly. Can you confirm what files were put in what folders, and the TT_Lib you installed etc...

                                            jesus you make it sound like its rocket science.

                                            Error Loading File tt_cleanup.rb
                                            no such file to load -- TT_Lib2/core.rb

                                            its the one file posted on the board, and its in the google sketchup 8 plugin folder.

                                            like every other plugin ive downloaded from this website.

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