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    • pilouP Offline
      pilou
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      Does not possible after an general "intersect", select only external faces, invert selection, erase?

      Frenchy Pilou
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      • TIGT Offline
        TIG Moderator
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        At first sight it should be easy...
        We list all_connected faces in the shape, then we loop through the list.
        If a ray that's on an all_connected face's 'normal' intersects with something else in the all_connected list then it's internal...
        This method works fine on a simple cube** etc BUT if the shape is 'convoluted' then there can be external faces overhanging other external faces, so that the method finds a ray intersection and return them as 'internal', but they are NOT...
        **Note that also 'reversed faces' will appear to be internal when they aren't, even on a simple cube !

        I'm sure there's some clever topological way of telling if a face is external or internal to a set of connected faces... but I don't know what it is. 😒

        If only we knew a budding Mathematician... Remus, do you know any ? πŸ˜‰

        TIG

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        • thomthomT Offline
          thomthom
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          I wonder if SketchPhysics has some code that could be useful to determine external/internal faces..?

          Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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          • pilouP Offline
            pilou
            last edited by

            If you make the 6 views XYZ "visibles front face" by Normal you have not all external visible faces?

            In Blender you have something named "occlude background geometry" that help for this sort of selection

            Frenchy Pilou
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            • TIGT Offline
              TIG Moderator
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              @unknownuser said:

              If you make the 6 views XYZ "visibles front face" by Normal you have not all external visible faces?

              In Blender you have something named "occlude background geometry" that help for this sort of selection

              It won't 'see' ALL external faces... if for example there is a hollow into the shape that is wider at the back...Hollow.png

              TIG

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              • pilouP Offline
                pilou
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                So a cool headache πŸ˜„

                Frenchy Pilou
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                • thomthomT Offline
                  thomthom
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                  Yea, it's a royal pain in the rear end!

                  Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                  • thomthomT Offline
                    thomthom
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                    just came across this thread: http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=180&t=12668
                    haven't looked at the code yet.

                    Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                    • JClementsJ Offline
                      JClements
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                      Question:

                      Does or can ruby act differently in selecting geometry if Xray is turned on or off?
                      If so, then could you do two routines, one with it on and another with it off, then compare the two results?
                      Would the difference between the results of the two routines be the internal edges?

                      John | Illustrator | Beaverton, Oregon

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                      • X Offline
                        xrok1
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                        can you bounce light at the problem?

                        β€œThere are three classes of people: those who see. Those who see when they are shown. Those who do not see.”

                        http://www.Twilightrender.com try it!

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                        • TIGT Offline
                          TIG Moderator
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                          A combination of Erase-Coplanar-Edges and the Remove-Inner-Faces, then Erase-Coplanar-Edges again gets rid of most internal faces and edges BUT it can't remove inner faces that are subdivided and not coplanar or have a single-faced edge...

                          I thought about getting the all_connected face/edge and vertices and using the shape's topology - Euler Factor - v-e+f=2 etc to see if that helped - but so far not much use. If you remove the coplanar-edges first it does return 2 for simple solids + 1 for every internal cell making face... ❓

                          TIG

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