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    • CadFatherC Offline
      CadFather
      last edited by

      nothing happens on mine, i right click, go through the choices but no result - however it may easily be my complex plugins configuration, so don't take this as a bug. shall report further when i have more time to play with it.

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      • TIGT Offline
        TIG Moderator
        last edited by

        @cadfather said:

        nothing happens on mine, i right click, go through the choices but no result - however it may easily be my complex plugins configuration, so don't take this as a bug. shall report further when i have more time to play with it.
        If you do a No glue version and move the SectionPlane back a little can you see the cut-face.
        The cut-face can't be located on the SectionPlane because you wouldn't then see it [like if you snap a SectionPlane onto a face the face is not shown], so it's moved 0.2mm into the cut so it's then visible.
        This 'offset' is a compromise between the cut-face's visibility and it looking right - obviously you don't want to see that the cut-face is not on the plane itself!
        Occasionally some users setup/GC etc will still take the cut-face as being on the SectionPlane and so you don't see it, although it's there...
        If that's the case there is an offset value of 0.2.mm in the code that can be adjusted slightly to see if that helps...
        I can either update the tool with a value that works for you all of you [perhaps compromising the appearance slightly for many] OR add an 'Offset' option with is 0.2 and lets you enter a bigger value till you get it right for you - as an editable parameter in the loader rb file, like the others used in the dialogs...
        πŸ˜•

        TIG

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        • CadFatherC Offline
          CadFather
          last edited by

          Thanks TIG, that makes sense - i'll have a proper play with it later on, and 2mm sounds just fine to me.

          Edit 0.2mm!!! πŸ˜†

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          • TIGT Offline
            TIG Moderator
            last edited by

            This is because when it's on a face it makes a visible 'section' BUT the cut itself intersects nothing - because the plane doesn't actually intersect with the object ! It's as if you drew a large grouped rectangle over the face then edited the contents and selected the face and used 'Intersect with model' - it has NO intersection as the two faces are 'coincident'.
            I can fix this by nudging the cut say 0.2mm into the section, then it will should intersect and face...
            I am about to fix another issue so I'll add that... πŸ˜•

            TIG

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            • bmikeB Offline
              bmike
              last edited by

              @tig said:

              This is because when it's on a face it makes a visible 'section' BUT the cut itself intersects nothing - because the plane doesn't actually intersect with the object ! It's as if you drew a large grouped rectangle over the face then edited the contents and selected the face and used 'Intersect with model' - it has NO intersection as the two faces are 'coincident'.
              I can fix this by nudging the cut say 0.2mm into the section, then it will should intersect and face...
              I am about to fix another issue so I'll add that... πŸ˜•

              I get that. I never use this on faces, so for me this was an example of why someone might not see it working.
              I should have been more clear.

              All good on my end.

              mike beganyi design + consulting llc

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              • bmikeB Offline
                bmike
                last edited by

                Note that if you use this on a face you might not see it working.

                Screen Shot 2013-06-11 at 6.52.07 AM.png

                Screen Shot 2013-06-11 at 6.52.24 AM.png

                It doesn't show up, even if I check the outliner, it is there, but not visible.

                Screen Shot 2013-06-11 at 6.55.20 AM.png

                I can move the section cut fore and aft, and even delete everything, but still can't see the cut.

                Screen Shot 2013-06-11 at 6.56.33 AM.png

                But as soon as I move the section cut and regenerate the cut face, it works.

                Screen Shot 2013-06-11 at 6.53.27 AM.png

                Edited to clear up my intention, see below.

                mike beganyi design + consulting llc

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                • TIGT Offline
                  TIG Moderator
                  last edited by

                  Here's v3.7
                  http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=172583#p172583

                  SectionPlanes that are snapped exactly 'on-face' will now cut geometry to match the visual section, by making the cut-face 0.1mm inside the visible section.
                  A new option in SectionCutFace_loader.rb to change 'Inset' to > 0.1.mm, needed for a few users whose GC's leave section-cuts not showing when they are regarded as still being not 'within' the viewable section...

                  TIG

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                  • K Offline
                    kaas
                    last edited by

                    Sketchup is getting better and better thanks to you guys! πŸ‘ πŸ‘

                    The new automatic glue option made me wonder.. have you considered, besides of using a solid color, creating the possibility of using the backface material (texture) of the faces ?

                    Like that the front faces of the walls, window frames, slab floors etc (all solids of course) could have a 'visual' texture on the front faces and the backfaces could use their corresponding hatch textures. Especially with the new glue-option it would be amazing if the section would 'automatically' be texture mapped with all the corresponding hatches.

                    During the design process I manually texture the section cuts (only for the final documents I manually create real line hatches) and the above would be a great time-saver.

                    Anyway, just a thought.

                    Greetings!

                    Max

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                    • JQLJ Offline
                      JQL
                      last edited by

                      Thanks for the explanation TIG, even if I got there myself it took me some time. I was almost going to post my Locale incident as a bug in your plugin.

                      I made a small change in your naming of the list in the translation. Where you refer to "Glue" wich in portuguese is "Colar" I translated as "Auto-Regenerar" wich actually means "Auto-Regenerate". I hope you don't mind, but if you do, there you have the literal translation.

                      There could be a warning about this feature it is both powefull and dangerous...

                      V3.7 in such short time... you code faster that I can write!

                      Best regards,

                      JQL

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                      • T Offline
                        teresaytw
                        last edited by

                        hi TIG, i wanna know why even if i restart my sketch up, or even my laptop, the section cut plugin still isn't load in my sketchup Pro 8? i did copy and paste the plugin into my plugin folder.

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                        • Dave RD Offline
                          Dave R
                          last edited by

                          @teresaytw said:

                          hi TIG, i wanna know why even if i restart my sketch up, or even my laptop, the section cut plugin still isn't load in my sketchup Pro 8? i did copy and paste the plugin into my plugin folder.

                          Where are you looking for it?

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                          • TIGT Offline
                            TIG Moderator
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                            @Teresa

                            If you had read the instructions a little more carefully you might have noticed that it is a [right-click] context-menu only tool.
                            AND it only appears in the context-menu when you have a selection containing just one object - which must be a SectionPlane.
                            That is how the tool determines where to put its SectionCutFace...

                            Where else did you expect this tool to 'appear' ?

                            We are of course assuming things here... that the .rb file etc was indeed in your Plugins folder and is therefore auto-loading. If you did a manual installation and you have restricted security permissions to your Plugins folder it can appear that you have installed it OK, but it's really gone into a 'VirtualStore' folder - having 'Compatibility Files...' link/button in the Plugins folder's Windows-Explorer top bars in a dead give away! Fix you permissions [Select the Plugins folder icon > right-click > context-menu > Properties > Security > Edit, set to FULL for everyone listed...] then retry installation...

                            Alternatively get the RBZ from the SketchUcation PluginStore page, and use the installer supplied with v8.
                            OR use the SketchUcation Plugin Store toolset, when you can AutoInstall the tool from a dialog within SketchUp itself...
                            Both of these options link via 'More Info...' to pages covering every tool's usage very comprehensively...

                            TIG

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                            • takesh hT Offline
                              takesh h
                              last edited by

                              Cheers TIG!!

                              What this plugin does is the kind of "update" many of us seculars wanted to see in SketchUp 2013... am I wrong? I mean, it doesn't even require an additional icon they (The spirituals) are said to be so afraid of...
                              As I have taken a long, winding and masochistic LayOut path just like many of SCF members here, your SectionCutFace plugin is already indispensable.
                              ....donation is definitely on the way!

                              tigistheking.jpg

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                              • takesh hT Offline
                                takesh h
                                last edited by

                                Oops.
                                "PayPal does not currently support Donation Payments from buyers in JP. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause."
                                So is there other ways?

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                                • TIGT Offline
                                  TIG Moderator
                                  last edited by

                                  @takesh h said:

                                  Oops.
                                  "PayPal does not currently support Donation Payments from buyers in JP. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause."
                                  So is there other ways?
                                  Just save it up.
                                  Or give a donation to another worthy recipient, on my behalf πŸ˜‰

                                  TIG

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                                  • takesh hT Offline
                                    takesh h
                                    last edited by

                                    Hi TIG.

                                    @tig said:

                                    Just save it up.
                                    Or give a donation to another worthy recipient, on my behalf πŸ˜‰

                                    Roger, Sir. πŸ‘

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                                    • M Offline
                                      MYELOISE
                                      last edited by

                                      hi! i downloaded the file but the extention is .rbz...i can't see nothing new in my sketchup, neither in the plugin window...i caan't use sketchup so well, where can I find the plugin in the program, when i open it? i have to change the extention??? help!

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                                      • Dave RD Offline
                                        Dave R
                                        last edited by

                                        No! Don't change the extension. .RBZ is perfect. Go to Window>Preferences>Extensions. Click on Install Extension. Navigate to where you saved the downloaded file and choose it.

                                        For future plugins, you should download and install the Sketchucation Plugin Store. It will make installation even easier.

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                                        • TIGT Offline
                                          TIG Moderator
                                          last edited by

                                          Here's an update v3.8...
                                          A glitch with the observers [used for Gluing] when new model started now resolved.
                                          See the tool's main page... http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=172583#p172583
                                          and then auto-install or download it from the SketchUcation PluginStore...

                                          TIG

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                                          • S Offline
                                            SabiaSingh
                                            last edited by

                                            Hello Mr Tig,
                                            Iam being having trouble installing this and other plugins onto SKUP v8. I am not be connection onto internet via SKUP standalone computer. So I do drop files into plugin folder but it is not visible. Is perhaps not correct metthod or perhaps not correct version for SKUP no.8 or perhaps?
                                            Many thank for advises
                                            SS

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