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    • ely862meE Offline
      ely862me
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      may i have the letter..save it in skp 6 please

      Elisei

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      • simon le bonS Offline
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        Dear Elisei,

        Here is my (SU6) Skp (I'm sorry not to much organized working one) DivShare File - RoundedLetter.skp

        Please take your time because again, some few days not far from a couple of weeks are going to take me away from house (from my PC 😆 ). So I'm going to be not very active in this trhead until i'll be back .
        ...// 😎 simon

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        • ely862meE Offline
          ely862me
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          sds is good but u need to know how to use it 😉


          RoundedLettera.skp


          RoundedLettera.jpg

          Elisei (sketchupper)


          Before no life was done on Earth it was THE LIFE ITSELF...GOD
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          • ely862meE Offline
            ely862me
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            😆 actually is very simple..

            i ll give u 3 hints: offset tool,skin tool and scale tool

            Elisei (sketchupper)


            Before no life was done on Earth it was THE LIFE ITSELF...GOD
            Come and See EliseiDesign

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            • pilouP Offline
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              @unknownuser said:

              My PC works hard to make SU running, and I can't even think to run a modeler on it

              Are you joking? 😮
              My Pc is a seven year old! And all works very fine on it! 😎
              I have just progs who don't ask too many things to the video card!
              Zbrush, Moi, Su, Blender 😉
              PS SU is also a modeler! ☀

              PS2 What happen when a render is made with these "horrible lines"?

              Frenchy Pilou
              Is beautiful that please without concept!
              My Little site :)

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              • simon le bonS Offline
                simon le bon
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                Hey Hey Helisei,

                You show too much or you explain not enough 😛
                You are waiting I find by myself I suppose. Not a lot of time again for that these next days..

                You are right. S&S works well on the letter shape you have redraw.
                but:
                1_ How did you do to make the base of the letter correctly flared ??
                2_ How did you do to redraw all the lines of the letter shape: by hand??


                http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_W_450.jpg

                I can see I have still a lot to learn on S&S. This another technic for exemple find me with the tong out of my mouth:Contest Winner: Modelling a Panton Chair with Subdivide and Smooth

                Thanks to participate,
                simon . . . . . .and theSlideshow(each link is the same updated one)

                PS: Your cars are crazy beautiful man 👍

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                • simon le bonS Offline
                  simon le bon
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                  Hi ely862me

                  @unknownuser said:

                  Take the model as in image 3 or 4 and run Subdivide&Smooth on it..u ll get the desired result

                  I'm afraid I don't understand the way you think about!
                  I've tried this time, not the subdivide+smooth operations like before but the modeler operation as i can think you are talking about, and the result is the following, after what i can't go further.

                  http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_P_450.jpg


                  http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_Q_450.jpg

                  /**

                  Dear Gaieus,
                  One more time you're right! I can't say I didn't know what you're talking, about cleaning unwanted geometry. But i thought in this case that it was not necessary to clean because there was no faces joining. As we can see, I was wrong 😄
                  Adendum about this subject:Creating a Hidden Seam in Google SketchUp by Eric Lay(Boofredlay).

                  After cleaning:

                  http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_R_450.jpg

                  This time it looks ok 👍

                  http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_S_450.jpg

                  and i'm afraid this is my ultimate best

                  http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_T_450.jpg

                  Updated slideshow

                  simon

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                  • simon le bonS Offline
                    simon le bon
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                    @ely862me said:

                    :lol: actually is very simple..

                    i ll give u 3 hints: offset tool,skin tool and scale tool

                    Very simple? No I wouldn't say that. In fact I haven't found how to make exactly the good flare I wanted (the same as yours). And I would have please (now I have searched 😉 ) more precisions from you on the way you've mastered it.

                    • A very important thing I have learned here is that: an offset doesn't give the same outer edge than a scale??(really a surprise to me) this is the reason why I was not able to do the right flare using scale tool and FredoScale!!

                    • No need to redraw all the lines, there is a cleaning module in Skin.rb


                    http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_WA_450.jpg


                    http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_WB_450.jpg

                    A check with S&S

                    http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_WC_450.jpg

                    "Very important"

                    http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_WD_450.jpg


                    http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_WE_450.jpg


                    http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_WF_450.jpg

                    (I have let down momentarily what I had begun whith Gaieus and I will retake it soon.)

                    simon

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                    • simon le bonS Offline
                      simon le bon
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                      Ok Elisei, you seem to be occupied. I can't wait you to follow my idea. (It would be great and friendly if you would give us a little step by step further explanation)

                      I start from your shape.


                      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_WFB_450.jpg

                      I need to subdivide the top of the letter. I'm using SandBox tool: from contour.

                      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_WG_450.jpg

                      Now using SkechyFFD to put some irregularity to the letter (I glue the bottom points)

                      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_WH_450.jpg


                      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_WI_450.jpg


                      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_WJ_450.jpg

                      (Note this other try with modeler from SandBox Tools.)

                      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_WK_450.jpg

                      Finally, with a ShapeBender treatment:

                      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_WL_450.jpg


                      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_WM_450.jpg


                      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_WN_450.jpg

                      not to bad for me 😉

                      Slideshow
                      ___
                      [Plugin] SketchyFFD by CPhillips
                      [Plugin] Shape Bender by Chris Fullmer

                      simon.

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                      • ely862meE Offline
                        ely862me
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                        after making the shape with offset and skin i scale it but not all, just the outer lower profile . When u scale all lower profile the inside part of the letter is scaled too, so ,u want it to be smaller but u get it bigger(so it becomes bigger than the up part of the letter), what u need is to scale just the outer lower part of the letter

                        Elisei (sketchupper)


                        Before no life was done on Earth it was THE LIFE ITSELF...GOD
                        Come and See EliseiDesign

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                        • simon le bonS Offline
                          simon le bon
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                          A last try for another method using Terrain Reshape and afterward Randomize TIN

                          The idea: apply the process on a very low shape and scale it after. I'm starting from the offseted and skined shape from Elisei. The result is not bad but S&S do very better. Its job isn't really for that kind of thing.

                          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_XG_450.jpg

                          I still follow what was Planned:

                          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_XH_450.jpg

                          The result is beautiful but far from what I expect. I keep it in mind... 😉

                          Slideshow

                          Re I shall update with a link as soon as I shall have made a tutorial with this 😉

                          I think: End of the topic!!! Thanks to all

                          😎 Simon

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                          • ely862meE Offline
                            ely862me
                            last edited by

                            yet, u didn t get all the point..u need to make scale from center and select more geometry from the letter
                            Btw..i didn t subdivide the top and letter together because as u can see when u subdivide them together the top becomes messy ,if u look at it with hidden geometry off

                            Elisei


                            rl.jpg

                            Elisei (sketchupper)


                            Before no life was done on Earth it was THE LIFE ITSELF...GOD
                            Come and See EliseiDesign

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                            • simon le bonS Offline
                              simon le bon
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                              Hi Elisei,

                              hey hey!! You don't give up so easily 👍
                              -) Allright I was a bit modest with the lines I was scaling. What you do certainly works well.

                              http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_XJ_450.jpg

                              I put at the end My last "R" (in french "l'air de la plage": a pretty bad wordgame hi!) in which I have hardly scale, redraw, modify the outlines.

                              -) I prefer rather than you, doing all this job on the same plane before elevate and skin process.

                              @unknownuser said:

                              .i didn t subdivide the top and letter together because as u can see when u subdivide them together the top becomes messy

                              -)Messy, yes it is , but I don't understand you because:
                              1-with hidden geometry off, the look is perfect without any seam line remaining.
                              2-when I subdivide independantly the top, this one doesn't fit exactly well.

                              http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_XL_450.jpg

                              3-I haven't found one method which give not a "messy result".
                              4-the subivision is enough to use SketchyFFD pretty well.

                              http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_XK_450.jpg


                              http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_XM_450.jpg

                              Enough of the "G" Here is the "R"

                              http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_XN_450.jpg


                              http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_XO_450.jpg

                              .

                              ++simon

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                              • simon le bonS Offline
                                simon le bon
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                                Hi Elisei,
                                I was not fool: Very simple but your hidden trick 😆
                                At the end the entire solution is from you!! Thanks and bravo: I have learned. I'm going to make a tutorial to simplify the process; shared with your name.


                                http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_XA_450.jpg


                                http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_XB_450.jpg

                                Partial Scale. Re: to simplify, I have removed the original letter's line

                                http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_XC_450.jpg

                                three scales. The yellow and blue figure is the basic one. I put it just to consider the scales ❗

                                http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_XD_450.jpg

                                And now I get it Myself

                                http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_XE_450.jpg

                                I come back on my previous post. No need to subdivide independantly the top of the letter. Just integer it in S&S modeler's process 💭

                                http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_XF_450.jpg

                                simon

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                                • simon le bonS Offline
                                  simon le bon
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                                  @alan fraser said:

                                  I know that SU now has its own 3D text tool, but that tool is fairly basic. Don't forget the solution of choice before the built-in option (or the Smustard Ruby)
                                  Elefont will automatically add a variety of bevels and chamfers that can be exported in dxf and brought into SU.
                                  http://www.armanisoft.ch/webdesign/elefont/Elefont.html

                                  Dear Alan,

                                  I have found time to test this "Elefont" from "Ingenieurbüro" Armin Müller you were talking about.

                                  http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/Elephantroselunette.jpg

                                  http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/Elefont_001_550.jpg

                                  This last 1.4 version dated from 7July 1998 begin to be may be a little outdated 😕 . It is not too much handy because its display is very small and the previsu doesn't give a great control.
                                  But in making small tries, we can do number of interesting variations. At the end the saving format in DXF is perfect to import in SketchUp. 👍

                                  http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/Elefont_002_550.jpg


                                  These subdivided letter shapes are perfect to use directly with S&S , avoiding the previous Offset, Scale and Skin stages 👍
                                  I have tried to reach my goal: the molted letter.
                                  In taking the letter at this stage, making a real flare isn't possible (?) anymore. So if we satisfied with the approximative Scaled flare, it is OK.

                                  http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/Elefont_003_550.jpg


                                  http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/Elefont_004_550.jpg


                                  http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/Elefont_005_550.jpg

                                  😉simon

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