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    [Plugin] TrueTangents v3.0

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    • jeff hammondJ Offline
      jeff hammond
      last edited by

      here's a video showing how you might use truetangents to finish that skp.. (fwiw, i'm using didier bur's arc ruby to draw my arcs.. included in that is a 'center + two points' option in which you select the centerpoint and the two ends of the desired arc.. all of these points are given to me via truetangents)

      [flash=680,378:1hkwq6mh]http://www.youtube.com/v/OWsg1q4HcKU&hl=en&fs=1&" type=[/flash:1hkwq6mh]

      dotdotdot

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      • pilouP Offline
        pilou
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        Cool video! 😎
        Yes that is tricky and thanks to Tig for this new true gem! ☀

        Frenchy Pilou
        Is beautiful that please without concept!
        My Little site :)

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        • TIGT Offline
          TIG Moderator
          last edited by

          @unknownuser said:

          here's a video showing how you might use truetangents to finish that skp.. (fwiw, i'm using didier bur's arc ruby to draw my arcs.. included in that is a 'center + two points' option in which you select the centerpoint and the two ends of the desired arc.. all of these points are given to me via truetangents)

          Thanks for your tutorial - your are better at explaining my tools than I am ! 😉
          FWIW, You can draw various Circle and Arc formats with my 2D Tools - similar to the one you describe... but perhaps more SUp-like ? The TrueTangents' Cpoints suit 3-point Arc/Circles...

          TIG

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          • simon le bonS Offline
            simon le bon
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            Thank you Jeff for your explanations.
            Things are much clearer to me now.

            One of the points which was missing to me was the necessary tool: arc by three points

            This Didier Bur tool can be found on Ruby Library Depot under: Geometry - DrawingHere or in french Here.
            We can find on the same place auto_centerpoint_v10.zip by Jim Foltz or the one you are using:Arc Centerpoint by jim

            And also:

            @tig said:

            FWIW, You can draw various Circle and Arc formats with my 2D Tools - similar to the one you describe... but perhaps more SUp-like ? The TrueTangents' Cpoints suit 3-point Arc/Circles...

            [Plugin] 2D Tools v3.6
            and 2D Tools Guide
            (Dear TIG, I still not have found time to watch this exciting tools set) 😒


            http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/FilletarcToolt011th.jpg


            http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/FilletarcToolt012th.jpg

            @unknownuser said:

            if you really had a need for this plugin then i don't think there would be any question about it's usage.. you would see its benefits immediately.

            I hadn't thought yet with the problem of "true" tangents. You have opened my eyes on this. On the another hand, it is not easy to think and draw a predictable tangent (true or "false") with SketchUp. So, this set of Tig's tools is a gift, even for drawing "organic shapes".

            👍 😄simon.

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            • jeff hammondJ Offline
              jeff hammond
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              @simon le bon said:


              http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/FilletarcToolt012th.jpg

              right! that's it 😉

              dotdotdot

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              • A Offline
                avya
                last edited by

                i thank u so much... gonna make a try for this one.

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                • T Offline
                  toto ete
                  last edited by

                  thank u for this great plugin TIG!

                  Hey jeff how do you make the pool? the video end to soon.

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                  • jeff hammondJ Offline
                    jeff hammond
                    last edited by

                    hey toto..
                    here's the basic process i've been using for this situation (i simplified some of it so it wouldn't take too much time but hopefully the method will come across).. there are some much simpler ways of doing something that sort of looks right but once you get in there for actual dimensions, it doesn't work out.. i build these out of wood so i need accurate dimensions (for skateboarding.. i need to make certain shapes to make it rideable).. the main plugin was fredoscale's 'scaling with orientation'..
                    also, i'm always interested in refining my drawing methods so if anyone has any ideas, feel free to tell me [or better yet - TIG, how's that two rail ruby coming along 😄]

                    [shown at 8x speed.. original was 21 minutes]
                    [flash=704,424:38dt7o97]http://www.youtube.com/v/S52C0nc5NmQ&hl=en&fs=1&[/flash:38dt7o97]

                    here's another method i use sometimes if i want a radius at the bottom and only one bend instead of following a top radius.. this one focuses around fredoscale's bend tool and the first 45 seconds of the video is showing me setting up for that bend.. making a custom arc so all the vertices match up and make a clean mesh once the compound bend is applied (note at around 1:30 in the video that all of the bend tool's slicers line up with the mesh... if you don't do this then make a curve on top of another curve, you'll end up with a bit of a mess which is hard to take the drawing further)

                    [shown at 3.5x speed.. original was 6 minutes]
                    [flash=704,424:38dt7o97]http://www.youtube.com/v/fuRo6GPh_Hw&hl=en&fs=1&[/flash:38dt7o97]

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                      toto ete
                      last edited by

                      hey jeff, thanks for adding more videos. are you having custom toolbars for every project? 😉
                      i love your work style and i must say again a big thanks to all ruby coders for making such things possible.

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                      • simon le bonS Offline
                        simon le bon
                        last edited by

                        Dear Jeff,

                        I come back again on this method you develop into the previous video(the first one).

                        http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/Jeff.jpg

                        Very foxy, indeed. I keep the link apart 😉

                        Can I make a critique on the video itself !

                        Some few editing, pointing milestones and resizing the long sames actions are preferable to this speedy solution. Witch we drive us to come again 5 or 6 times on the same rocket transition.

                        ++simon.

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                        • R Offline
                          Ricco
                          last edited by

                          Thank for this TIG
                          I think it will help me in my work,
                          Now, i'm gonig to watch tutorials,
                          Bye Jeff
                          Ricco

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                          • dermotcollD Offline
                            dermotcoll
                            last edited by

                            Thanks TIG - I look forwardto using this in my modelling.

                            Slainte

                            Dermot

                            When you burn your arse - you gotta sit on the blisters!!

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                            • simon le bonS Offline
                              simon le bon
                              last edited by

                              Dear Tig,
                              sorry for disturbing!
                              I experience some difficulty with "Common Tangents"
                              After various tries, I haven't found what can be the point which make the plug sometime not working!

                              http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/commonTangents01th.jpg

                              Maybe an idea?
                              😕 simon

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                              • TIGT Offline
                                TIG Moderator
                                last edited by

                                So, to recap... you have discovered certain combinations of circles that won't display 'common-tangents'?
                                Looking at you image there seems nothing untoward. However, are all of these circles 'co-planar'? If they are not then they have no 'common-tangents'... I can't get it to reproduce unless I lift one of the circles up by a tiny amount (0.1mm) then it fails. The one with partial clines is a mystery...
                                To check this move the problem circles up in the z a large amount then draw a large face at z=0 under the circles and use the Sandbox Drape Tool to ensure they 'stamp' onto the face. Erase the originals and the rest of the unwanted face. Retry the common-tangent tool to see if they now form...
                                Could you send your problem skp to me by PM rather than clog up this thread ?

                                TIG

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                                • TIGT Offline
                                  TIG Moderator
                                  last edited by

                                  Here's v2.0 http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=160780#p160780
                                  It has a tolerance added to the check on pairs of arcs' co-planar-ness: now pair of arcs that are not quite co-planar are still processed successfully...

                                  TIG

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                                  • simon le bonS Offline
                                    simon le bon
                                    last edited by

                                    Hurra!
                                    I don't experience no difficulty anymore. Top strong!
                                    Thank you TIG 👍

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                                    • thomthomT Offline
                                      thomthom
                                      last edited by

                                      Noticed this TIG: http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=323&t=27592#p271449 ?

                                      Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                      List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                      • TIGT Offline
                                        TIG Moderator
                                        last edited by

                                        Here's v3.0 http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=160780#p160780
                                        The Float method 'n1=~n2' has been replaced with 'eq(n1,n2)' to avoid potential clashes. 🤓

                                        TIG

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                                        • M Offline
                                          MartinK
                                          last edited by

                                          Thanks TIG. I appreciate your hard work. It's great to find something you can't figure out how to do with standard SU tools and be able to find a plugin that will.

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                                          • Y Offline
                                            Yomull
                                            last edited by

                                            Hi TIG, Your plug in is working very well, thank you. But in fact I was looking for a tool that should make possible to draw a circle tangent to two other arcs or circles like the "Tan Tan Radius" option in autocad when drawing a circle. Do you have any idea how this is possible achieve into SketchUp?

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