Call to Mac users for script portability

jeff hammond · 6 Apr 2009, 22:02

I think, with the new "Lib6Traductor_31.rb", arrow keys work, Fkeys that are not assigned shortcuts in SU work, Alt/Option key still works as Ctrl key.

a little info about macs and F keys... the keys became programmed as volume, brightness, etc. because of the laptops.. there wasn't enough space on the keyboards for these controls so apple took over the F keys for that purpose..

on your keyboard, you'll notice a key called fn.. that's basically like a shift key for the function keys.. it allows F4 etc to perform double duty..

if you want to use F4 in freescale, you have to push fn/F4 together.. if you push F4 by itself, the dashboard will pop up.. in the system prefs (i mentioned this earlier in the thread), you can flip this around to where the F keys will work as they used to and the assigned functions will only work if you press the fn key as well (ie- fn/F10 for mute)

jeff hammond · 6 Apr 2009, 22:29

@unknownuser said:

For Web Dialogs, I have made a slight change to open the windows in a bigger size, and then try to resize.

Do you notice any difference.

Fredo

PS: actually, the test is also to know if I have a problem with SU Web dialogs or with Safari.

ok, so the window opens up nearly twice the size as it use to but it very quickly goes back to the original size only now it's near the bottom of the screen.. nothing has change other than the location of where it's at on the screen.. it happens so fast that i can't see if the save/reset buttons are appearing or not on the initial opening.

also, i'm not sure if you have this going straight to safari or not but earlier, i tried setting my default browser to firefox and everything stayed the same...

earlier you asked "By chance, is there on Mac, like in Windows, a contextual menu where you can do a Refresh and see the source code?"
i don't really know my way around that stuff but it does exist. i pretty much keep it on the GUI side of things.. i wouldn't be much help with code

[EDIT]-oh wait, you said 'code' and i started getting scared .. if you mean is there a way to view the source code for a page in safari then yeah, it's easy.. right-click/view source

fredo6 · 7 Apr 2009, 06:26

Jeff and Takeshi,

If you can right-click in the dialog box, then could you select the menu "Refresh" if there is one.

Attached is an updated file to avoid the resizing, so that you can possibly check whether the whole content of the dialog box is displayed or not. Keep the previous Lib6Config_31.rb (which open the box with a big size).

I am still wondering why SU does not show the full content, unless there is another problem, but with Safari.

Thanks again

Fredo

PS: SU uses Safari, regardless of the setting of your preferred browser on your MAC. So changing to Firefox would have no influence.

to drop into LIBFREDO6_Dir_31

jeff hammond · 7 Apr 2009, 14:52

here's a screenshot of the dialog using the latest file.

that's exactly how it opens up and it's the best version yet.. the entire red outlined box is now visible but i still have to stretch the window to get to the save/reset buttons.

as far as i'm concerned, everything is totally fine as is but i can understand the confusion by a mac user that is just installing freescale.. regardless, all of the tools work perfectly and that's my main concern.

as far as safari's context menu, these are my options with a normal web page:

with the freescale dialog, i only have one option which it 'reload'.. if i click on that, everything stays the same.

caronte01 · 7 Apr 2009, 15:02

Several plugins on the mac, including yours, won´t remember the state of it´s toolbars (opened or closed), between sessions. Someone at google told me that this can be fixed by including something similar to this:

Show toolbar if it was open when we shutdown.

state = toolbar.get_last_state
if (state == TB_VISIBLE)
  toolbar.restore
end

Santiago

fredo6 · 7 Apr 2009, 20:56

Santiago,

Do you mean that this is specific to the Mac platform?
On Windows, just calling toolbar.show is sufficient to take into account the previous state when Sketchup is closed.

Anyway it's easy to fix, based on your example.

Thanks for the tip

Fred

jeff hammond · 8 Apr 2009, 03:41

that would be great to find out a way i could turn the toolbars on and off and have their status remembered.. the only toolbars i have that will do this are the ones that come with SU (sandbox, dynamic components, etc.).. two of the rubies containing toolbars that i have (skin.rb and kerkythea exporter) will not appear upon launch of sketchup and the rest of them will not 'hide' upon launch -- regardless of how they are set up prior to closing the app..

speaking of dynamic components fredo, have you by any chance looked at the code for it (or is it even possible?).. that has a web dialog and there are no problems with it on macs.

fredo6 · 8 Apr 2009, 06:41

@unknownuser said:

that would be great to find out a way i could turn the toolbars on and off and have their status remembered.. the only toolbars i have that will do this are the ones that come with SU (sandbox, dynamic components, etc.).. two of the rubies containing toolbars that i have (skin.rb and kerkythea exporter) will not appear upon launch of sketchup and the rest of them will not 'hide' upon launch -- regardless of how they are set up prior to closing the app..

I made a small modification to follow the advice from Santiago (attached file). This problem may be specific to the Mac, because, on Windows, toolbars are well 'remembered'.

@unknownuser said:

speaking of dynamic components fredo, have you by any chance looked at the code for it (or is it even possible?).. that has a web dialog and there are no problems with it on macs.

Thanks for this good idea. Difficult to tell however, because it is done differently (mostly in Javascript for the displays). Also their ruby code is encrypted and I suspect my problem precisely lies in the way the dialog box is configured from Ruby.

to drop into LIBFREDO6_Dir_31

fredo6 · 8 Apr 2009, 07:15

For the display of Web dialog boxes

Sorry to bother again, I made a slight modif to shift the content down, because it seems that on Mac the top of the HTML content starts under the title bar.
Maybe the attached file will correct this.

Fredo

to drop into LIBFREDO6_Dir_31 subfolder

Tasman · 8 Apr 2009, 12:09

Fredo

Thanks for all this work you are doing on the Mac versions.

I have just tried your last update which should remember the last position of the toolbars on Quit. Tools on Surface and Free Scale work OK but BZ_Toolbar, Round Edge and Null Transform still have the problem of returning to there previously displayed position.

Tasman

jeff hammond · 8 Apr 2009, 13:58

haha, nice

one of the 3-4 toolbars i would like to keep open at all times now has the ability to stay closed..

question: did you have to write something specifically related to this script or is there a generic piece of code i can add to (or request that the writers add) the other toolbar containing rubies.

fredo6 · 8 Apr 2009, 16:52

About Toolbar persistence across Sketchup sessions

Jeff, do you confirm, as Tasman, that you get what you wish with the FreeScale toolbar.
It works the same incidently with ToolsOnSurface because the script also uses LibFredo6 31 now.
For JPP, BezierSpline and RoundEdge that's not the case however and this is why the change as no effect.

@unknownuser said:

haha, nice

one of the 3-4 toolbars i would like to keep open at all times now has the ability to stay closed..

question: did you have to write something specifically related to this script or is there a generic piece of code i can add to (or request that the writers add) the other toolbar containing rubies.

I just used the method suggested by Santiago http://www.sketchucation.com/forums/scf/viewtopic.php?f=180&t=18152&start=15#p147126

Fredo

jeff hammond · 8 Apr 2009, 22:31

@unknownuser said:

About Toolbar persistence across Sketchup sessions

Jeff, do you confirm, as Tasman, that you get what you wish with the FreeScale toolbar.
It works the same incidently with ToolsOnSurface because the script also uses LibFredo6 31 now.
For JPP, BezierSpline and RoundEdge that's not the case however and this is why the change as no effect.

yes, everything is working fine.
thank you

i would like to keep most of your tools open at all times so it's not much of an issue but i am wondering what you added to the script.. i would like to get enough info about it so i can put in a request to the writer of 1001bit that he add the code.. (his scripts are encrypted so he would have to do it)... his toolbar looks like this:

i use two of the tools and it's a slight annoyance to see that big toolbar everytime i open sketchup

i couldn't find where you added the things that santiago wrote a few posts back. what would be the easiest way for me to describe the problem/solution to GOHCH @ 1001bit?

fredo6 · 9 Apr 2009, 06:38

@unknownuser said:

i couldn't find where you added the things that santiago wrote a few posts back. what would be the easiest way for me to describe the problem/solution to GOHCH @ 1001bit?

Jeff,

If you find a line where a toolbar tlbis shown, for instance tlb.show, then transform the code into:


	case tlb.get_last_state
	when 1
	   tlb.restore
	when -1	
	   tlb.show
	end

This is the modif I did in my script, based on Santiago's suggestion, and it seems to do the job on Mac.

Fredo

PS: What about my last change concerning the display of web dialog boxes? Did it change anything?

fredo6 · 9 Apr 2009, 06:40

@unknownuser said:

I don't seem to get the expected result on my iMac when using the Radial Bending function: the object just "leans" instead of bending (see attached picture)

Bob,

You just need to activate the slicer (via the contextual menu, and key fn F4 when it works on Mac).

Fredo

Bob James · 9 Apr 2009, 07:05

I don't seem to get the expected result on my iMac when using the Radial Bending function: the object just "leans" instead of bending (see attached picture)

All other functions work great!

Bob James · 9 Apr 2009, 08:03

Great! Thanks for the quick answer.

In your U-Tube demo you stretch a sphere into a cylinder.
I clicked on the Stretching Tool, oriented the grid by clicking on a line in another part of the screen, but when I stretch it I don't get the cylinder.
Obviously, this is the first time I've tried this incredible tool.

fredo6 · 9 Apr 2009, 09:48

@unknownuser said:

Great! Thanks for the quick answer.

In your U-Tube demo you stretch a sphere into a cylinder.
I clicked on the Stretching Tool, oriented the grid by clicking on a line in another part of the screen, but when I stretch it I don't get the cylinder.
Obviously, this is the first time I've tried this incredible tool.

It depends how you built the sphere. Yours seems to be made of 'Sketchup Curves', which as indicated in the video are never stretched in the current version (I have to work on a more flexible approach, because sometimes this is what the user wants, and sometimes it's not, as in your current case).

Fredo

takesh h · 9 Apr 2009, 09:50

@unknownuser said:

i use two of the tools and it's a slight annoyance to see that big toolbar everytime i open sketchup

How about dragging two of icons from 1001bit toolbat to the top of the window? [menu]-[view]-[customize toolbar]
If you go to [menu]-[view]-[tool pallets], you should see other smller toolbars for 1001bit tools.
Yet another solution is assigning shortcuts to those two rubies you use and hide 1001bit toolbar altogether.

jeff hammond · 9 Apr 2009, 19:35

@unknownuser said:

@unknownuser said:

i couldn't find where you added the things that santiago wrote a few posts back. what would be the easiest way for me to describe the problem/solution to GOHCH @ 1001bit?

Jeff,

If you find a line where a toolbar tlbis shown, for instance tlb.show, then transform the code into:


> 	case tlb.get_last_state
> 	when 1
> 	   tlb.restore
> 	when -1	
> 	   tlb.show
> 	end	
>

This is the modif I did in my script, based on Santiago's suggestion, and it seems to do the job on Mac.

oh, ok. thanks.. i did a system search for "tb.restore" and "toolbar.restore" and only the sandbox rubies showed up as containing those lines.. didn't realize 'tlb' would work..

@unknownuser said:

PS: What about my last change concerning the display of web dialog boxes? Did it change anything?

now it looks like this:

so now, the red outline isn't fully visible but the title is.. you can see that the window also shows the title so it's redundant in that regard.