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    [Plugin] Perpendicular Face Tools (UPDATED 26-03-09)

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    • jeff hammondJ Offline
      jeff hammond
      last edited by

      @chris fullmer said:

      But I'll be taking a break to watch LOST in a few minutes ๐Ÿ˜„

      haha

      i don't know. it's up to you.. i do think it's important to keep it fairly simple instead of using a somewhat obscure reason to bloat it.. maybe some others can chime in and reach a consensus..
      now that i think about it, once i start using this in a drawing, i'll probably prefer using the square instead.. even if i'm drawing an arc.

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      • jeff hammondJ Offline
        jeff hammond
        last edited by

        and just to jump start that consensus, here's what TIG had to say earlier in the thread.

        @tig said:

        Circle - not so important to get 'square', but if it has few segments it'd be best if a vertex were at the lowest point in Z

        ๐Ÿ™‚

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        • Chris FullmerC Offline
          Chris Fullmer
          last edited by

          Well, it turns out that its super simple to implement a modifier key rotation. SO I'll go ahead and do that. I tried shift and it kept rotating when I was trying to orbit and pan with shift key and middle mouse button. Alt was no good, kept opening the menu system and it was annoying to have to keep click back off of the menu.

          I think I'll do the up arrow key. Thats convenient and not in use while my tool is activated.

          Chris

          In fact, I've pretty much got it implemented and its quite nice. I'll have the update in a little bit.

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          • Chris FullmerC Offline
            Chris Fullmer
            last edited by

            UPDATE! v1.2 Implemented some of the stuff we've been discussing in previous posts.

            v1.2 Updates:

            • Changed so that circles default to have their vertices on top and bottom, not edges.
            • The up arrow key rotates the faces after they have been placed. Squares will rotate 45 degrees. Circles will rotate the angle needed to alternate between having an edge or a vertex on the top. Custom faces rotate in 90 degree increments. Helpful for fixing faces that are oriented 180 off, or that were drawn on the wrong axis.

            Chris

            Sorry to everyone who has been downloading every update today....3 installs in one day! Thanks for trying this script.

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            • pilouP Offline
              pilou
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              Funny sound video! A new ambiance ๐Ÿ˜‰

              Frenchy Pilou
              Is beautiful that please without concept!
              My Little site :)

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              • free agentF Offline
                free agent
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                wow thanx this script should be awsome now all i need is the occasion to use it.

                http:i167.photobucket.comalbumsu143FreeAgent84bug.gif

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                • Dave RD Offline
                  Dave R
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                  Chris, thank you very much for plugging away at this (pun intended ๐Ÿ˜„)

                  I just zipped out the attached in about 2 minutes thanks to this plugin. I think I can see some neat applications for this.

                  http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v506/weekender410/horn.jpg

                  Etaoin Shrdlu

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                  (THERE'S NO PLACE LIKE)

                  G28 X0.0 Y0.0 Z0.0

                  M30

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                  • D Offline
                    dylan
                    last edited by

                    Dave that is exactly the sort of thing I thought of using this for when I realized the new features added.

                    Thanks Chris, this is fantastic ๐Ÿ‘

                    http://dmdarchitecture.co.uk/

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                    • Dave RD Offline
                      Dave R
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                      Dylan, I was just experimenting and came up with this thing. It could be a drawer or door pull or something. I could have made the corners a bit more rounded but since I started out not knowing what I was going to draw, this is alright. The section is an ellipse and it is thicker in the middle than at the ends. Between Chris's plugin and the Skin plugin, this was all dead simple and fast work.

                      http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v506/weekender410/handle.jpg

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                      • Chris FullmerC Offline
                        Chris Fullmer
                        last edited by

                        Hey, great woork. Its good to see the plugin being used!

                        Chris

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                        • jeff hammondJ Offline
                          jeff hammond
                          last edited by

                          sweet, the circle is working great now..

                          i'm starting to feel like a pest now but i can't get the rotation to work on my mac.. it doesn't bother me but some other mac users might like the rotate option (and actually, i probably will too once i find myself doing a custom profile).

                          the status bar says this when i'm using the script:

                          Click on a line-end to place a perpendicular square on it. ctrl = Use "Arbitrary Rotation"
                          

                          the ctrl key on a mac (in conjunction with the mouse) triggers a right click.

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                          • jim smithJ Offline
                            jim smith
                            last edited by

                            Great tool Chris - I can see quite a few uses.

                            I could see this type of script speeding up the process of putting a model together from imported cad elevations. Attached is a WIP showing a model I just started to assemble from autocad parts. My process now is to make faces, rotate and snap together. I wonder if there is any chance that a divided surface might eventually take advantage of this script?site_03-26-09.jpg

                            "Out of clutter find simplicity,
                            from discord find harmony,
                            In the middle of difficulty lies opportunity"
                            Albert Einstein

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                            • MALAISEM Offline
                              MALAISE
                              last edited by

                              Hi Chris, really good tool ๐Ÿ˜

                              Just have a look :

                              MALAISE


                              Plugin_Clf.png

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                              • Chris FullmerC Offline
                                Chris Fullmer
                                last edited by

                                Hmm, interesting I'll look at that cosmetic issue.

                                Also, is there someone on a Mac who would be able to help me find the right key for the up arrow? You would just install the little ruby attached to this message like a regular ruby. Then run sketchup. Open the ruby console and type:

                                load 'key_finder.rb'

                                After you type that, leave the ruby console open. And click back into the Sketchup window. Then press the up arrow. A message will display in the ruby console. Hopefully something like

                                The Key identifier is: 38

                                Could you please copy and paste that message back here for me?

                                Probably just delete the file from your plugins folder afterwards. Thanks

                                Chris


                                key_finder.rb

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                                • jeff hammondJ Offline
                                  jeff hammond
                                  last edited by

                                  The Key idenetifier is: 63232
                                  (that's for the up arrow)

                                  [took me a while to figure out how to open the ruby console ๐Ÿ˜† ]

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                                  • Chris FullmerC Offline
                                    Chris Fullmer
                                    last edited by

                                    Excellent, thanks! I'll try to get that worked into the code tonight.

                                    Also, I've thought about trying to make it more compatible with multiple faces. It would not be all that difficult to make it work with multiple flat faces. It would take a little bit more work to get it to work with non-planar faces. But I have a feeling that if I sat down and tried to make it work like that, I would also iron out the bug that makes the custom face tool slightly unpredictable. So maybe it would be good. But multiple planar faces would actually probably be pretty straightforward to implement.

                                    Thanks for the help and suggestions everyone,

                                    Chris

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                                    • J Offline
                                      Jim
                                      last edited by

                                      Don't the key constants work? It seems like the most portable solution.

                                      Hi

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                                      • Chris FullmerC Offline
                                        Chris Fullmer
                                        last edited by

                                        Well, yes. But I would nee dot figure out how to use those ๐Ÿ˜ณ

                                        Also, I didn't spend a lot of time with them because I wanted to use the up arrow key, which it seems is not supported with the key constants.

                                        Have any hints how to you use those and which is best? I like ctrl on the PC, but it apparently conflict on the Mac.

                                        Chris

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                                        • J Offline
                                          Jim
                                          last edited by

                                          Well, then we woo nee dot show lkie tihs.

                                          
                                          if key == VK_UP
                                            # do this
                                          end
                                          
                                          

                                          Hi

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                                          • jeff hammondJ Offline
                                            jeff hammond
                                            last edited by

                                            @chris fullmer said:

                                            I like ctrl on the PC, but it apparently conflict on the Mac.

                                            actually, i'm not quite sure ctrl would conflict..
                                            ctrl is used with some other tools:

                                            cmd-ctrl-leftclick = orbit
                                            shift-ctrl with the eraser = unsoften/unsmooth

                                            i was just saying earlier that it's generally used for right clicking if you use apple's one button mouse.

                                            with the orbit example, i can ctrl-leftclick and get the context menu or i can add the command key and start orbiting.. i'm guessing it won't be a problem to use ctrl for the rotate function in your script and besides, it would probably be nicer to have a key on the left side of the keyboard instead of the right..

                                            is there anyway i can test a ruby with a ctrl modifier to see if it works on a mac?

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