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    • dereiD 離線
      derei
      最後由 編輯

      Usually searching works when you know exactly what you want... if I want to find "something that was somehow... I don't know exactly, but I can recognize if I see it", I'm sure that search box won't help 💚

      DESIGNER AND ARTIST [DEREI.UK](http://derei.uk/l)

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      • pilouP 離線
        pilou
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        Maybe this is yet known but I just discover that today 😳 (Thx Chri)

        With the follow-me, no need to select only the path, before call the Follow-me!
        Click the surface is sufficient ! 😲

        I made Double clicks on the surface then Shift + Ctrl for deselect it for have only the path 💚
        (Double click Without deselection works also but... 😳

        Here just 3 simple clicks 😎

        click_3.jpg

        Frenchy Pilou
        Is beautiful that please without concept!
        My Little site :)

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        • thomthomT 離線
          thomthom
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          That's a new Duh! moment for me!!

          Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
          List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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          • GaieusG 離線
            Gaieus
            最後由 編輯

            Is it? 😄

            Interesting although admittedly I also have duh moments on trivia sometimes.

            Note however that is there is a soften edge (say a diagonal) in the face, the follow me will not go completely around - not even when simply double clicking. In this case Pilou's "original" method: Double clicking then deselecting the inner (sur)face will do the job though.

            So basically it only woks with single faces. Not even with coplanar but subdivided faces.

            Gai...

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            • jgbJ 離線
              jgb
              最後由 編輯

              Another thing with Follow-Me I discovered a while back (and reported) is when you are defining a path that has curves, place the template face somewhere on a straight portion of any line segment, NOT at an endpoint. 😮

              If follow-me starts on an endpoint, the face template follows one of the subtended angles and royally screws up at the end, with an end face out of alignment. This is especially a major factor with closed loops. 👎

              However, if started on a straight section, it will end perpendicular to the last line of the path, and if the path is a closed loop, it will join properly. 👍


              jgb

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              • pilouP 離線
                pilou
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                Useful to know! 👍

                Frenchy Pilou
                Is beautiful that please without concept!
                My Little site :)

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                • broomstickB 離線
                  broomstick
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                  I've seen this pointed out before, but I just discovered that while orbiting with the middle mouse pressed, if you press the left button, orbit becomes pan.

                  It's a useful way to orbit/pan without using two hands 😄

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                  • pilouP 離線
                    pilou
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                    Mini Doh 😳 (due forgotten function) 😒

                    • Alt gives you the possibility to Move a segment escaping at the X Y plan 😉

                    Frenchy Pilou
                    Is beautiful that please without concept!
                    My Little site :)

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                    • thomthomT 離線
                      thomthom
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                      @broomstick said:

                      I've seen this pointed out before, but I just discovered that while orbiting with the middle mouse pressed, if you press the left button, orbit becomes pan.

                      !!! 😲 OMF-DUH!!!

                      Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                      List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                      • thomthomT 離線
                        thomthom
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                        A bit awkward though, as I use my index finger usually to press the middle mouse button, so I need to shift to my middle finger to free up my index for the left mouse button. ...which it was the right button that did that...

                        Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                        List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                        • GaieusG 離線
                          Gaieus
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                          @thomthom said:

                          A bit awkward though, as I use my index finger usually to press the middle mouse button, so I need to shift to my middle finger to free up my index for the left mouse button. ...which it was the right button that did that...

                          Ditto. I have known this "feature" but could never adapt myself to it.

                          Gai...

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                          • pilouP 離線
                            pilou
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                            @unknownuser said:

                            I use my index finger usually to press the middle mouse button

                            That is very curious, because with the medium you can rotate many more the Mouse wheel than with index! 😲
                            So more speedy scolling! 😎
                            For the simple reason that the Medium is biggest than the index! ☀
                            So the medium is always on the whell, so click it is a formality! 😄
                            Try it! 😉

                            Frenchy Pilou
                            Is beautiful that please without concept!
                            My Little site :)

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                            • jgbJ 離線
                              jgb
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                              @unknownuser said:

                              @unknownuser said:

                              I use my index finger usually to press the middle mouse button

                              That is very curious, because with the medium you can rotate many more the Mouse wheel than with index! 😲
                              So more speedy scolling! 😎
                              For the simple reason that the Medium is biggest than the index! ☀
                              So the medium is always on the whell, so click it is a formality! 😄
                              Try it! 😉

                              I have always used my mid finger on the wheel, with index on the left button. I also move my mid to the right button when needed as the ring finger has less control (which is why it is the "ring" finger 😆 ).

                              It shouldn't take long to adjust to that finger position.

                              And now I know why my "orbiting" suddenly goes into "panning" when my index finger twitches downward sometimes. Now that I know, I can exploit that feature. Thank you Broomstick.

                              And Pilou, I fail to see what you mean with Move+Alt. ❓ Could you please explain a bit more?


                              jgb

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                              • Jean LemireJ 離線
                                Jean Lemire
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                                Hi Pilou, hi folks.

                                Yes, pressing the ALT key enables Autofold.

                                Just ideas.

                                Jean (Johnny) Lemire from Repentigny, Quebec, Canada.

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                                • pilouP 離線
                                  pilou
                                  最後由 編輯

                                  Is that more clear ? 😳
                                  Without Alt Z axis is locked!
                                  You can make some prisms or no coplanar faces with Move + Alt! 😉
                                  The Z axis become free with Move + Alt 😄

                                  Movetool.jpg

                                  Frenchy Pilou
                                  Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                  My Little site :)

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                                  • GaieusG 離線
                                    Gaieus
                                    最後由 編輯

                                    And here is the autofold description:
                                    http://support.google.com/sketchup/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=94865

                                    Gai...

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                                    • thomthomT 離線
                                      thomthom
                                      最後由 編輯

                                      I wish there was an option to make SketchUp Smooth+Soft auto-folded edges.

                                      Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                      List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                      • jeff hammondJ 離線
                                        jeff hammond
                                        最後由 編輯

                                        I've been harping on this for years now but I don't think anyone ever tries it.. oh well

                                        orbit with a thumb button (if your mouse has one).. not only is it more comfortable, it also gets rid of the double duty zoom/orbit mmb... AND- makes panning with the LMB much easier.

                                        dotdotdot

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                                        • thomthomT 離線
                                          thomthom
                                          最後由 編輯

                                          Thumb buttons are Copy, Paste ...

                                          Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                          List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                          • jgbJ 離線
                                            jgb
                                            最後由 編輯

                                            @gaieus said:

                                            And here is the autofold description:
                                            http://support.google.com/sketchup/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=94865

                                            Read it, tried it and I still don't see any advantage. 😒

                                            If I want to go Z (blue) I press the UP arrow and it seems to do the same as the autofold, but with exact axis control. 👍

                                            It seems to me that autofold may hold an advantage if we had true 3D screens, but mine is standard 2D, and I cannot control, with any precision, where my object is moving to.


                                            jgb

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