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    • TIGT Offline
      TIG Moderator
      last edited by

      @unknownuser said:

      @xrok1 said:

      the duh moment that turned out to just be a der! moment. ๐Ÿคฃ

      but seriously you can copy your construction lines with (ctrl) copy, and then say *10 or whatever so you get 10 equally spaced. if that helps?

      Duh! Wow again! I have such a hard time dividing stuff like 7 3/16" into 3 equal sections. This helps a lot! Thanks!

      Move+ctrl to copy + typed 'dimension' + <enter> moves the copy by that 'dimension'.
      Immediately typing 10x [or 10* or x10 or *10 !] will copy 10 times, at that dimension each time.
      Alternatively immediately typing /10 will take the 'dimension' as the total distance and make 10 copies that are fitted into the distance, dividing the 'dimension' into 10 equal parts - as you say great if you want to subdivide 7 3/16" into 3 parts without worrying about the Math.

      TIG

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      • S Offline
        SketchUpNoobie
        last edited by

        @ecuadorian said:

        Today I discovered that I can drag-and-drop images straight from Firefox into the SketchUp viewport. ๐Ÿ˜ฒ

        Wow! Just tried it with your avatar and it works!!! ๐Ÿ˜„

        --

        SketchUpNoobie: the complete noob in all things SketchUp.

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        • thomthomT Offline
          thomthom
          last edited by

          @unknownuser said:

          @ecuadorian said:

          Today I discovered that I can drag-and-drop images straight from Firefox into the SketchUp viewport. ๐Ÿ˜ฒ

          Wow! Just tried it with your avatar and it works!!! ๐Ÿ˜„

          I had and odd duh moment for that - because I just did it one time, and I surprised myself afterwards when I realised it worked. I assumed it didn't - so I have no idea why I even tried.

          Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
          List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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          • pilouP Offline
            pilou
            last edited by

            But the inverse don't work ๐Ÿ˜ž ๐Ÿ˜‰

            Frenchy Pilou
            Is beautiful that please without concept!
            My Little site :)

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            • K Offline
              KXI System
              last edited by

              just figured out how to adjust a textured face.

              Right click โžก texture
              on textured face. Actually I knew about it but just forgot.

              Getting the perfect sig is hard...

              Google it!

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              • S Offline
                SketchUpNoobie
                last edited by

                @arklandesign said:

                hehe .....This is a funny and informative thread at the same time...

                I have one... discovered by mistake yesterday.
                If one is in a complicated model and want to focus attention to a particular part of the model, one can double click on the scroll wheel at the point one is interested in and that will centre that point in the middle of the screen....making orbiting even easier.

                Haha! Thanks! Funny how stupid some people are. Surely not me though! ๐Ÿ˜ณ

                --

                SketchUpNoobie: the complete noob in all things SketchUp.

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                • D Offline
                  danbig
                  last edited by

                  here's one:

                  what's the difference between the "soften" and "hide" commands for lines?

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                  • Rich O BrienR Offline
                    Rich O Brien Moderator
                    last edited by

                    Left is Hidden, right is softened...

                    Soften Hide FaceOff.jpg

                    and SHIFT+ = Hide

                    and CTRL+ = Soften

                    Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp ๐Ÿ“–

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                    • D Offline
                      danbig
                      last edited by

                      @unknownuser said:

                      Left is Hidden, right is softened...

                      Other than appearance, is there a difference in how the two behave?

                      (I'm slow to Doh! on this one ๐Ÿ˜•)

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                      • Rich O BrienR Offline
                        Rich O Brien Moderator
                        last edited by

                        In this example the cylinder with the HIDDEN lines, it's faces are still individually manipulated. Where as SOFTENED results one continuous face. SU playing games with the mind

                        Difference FaceOff.jpg

                        To create the cylinder without softened edges, just draw a circle, then right click it and Explode Curve followed by . Now you can hide edges and see for yourself!

                        Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp ๐Ÿ“–

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                        • D Offline
                          danbig
                          last edited by

                          Hmm. Strange. I'm able to create hidden and soft lines (I use hidden lines regularly).

                          But if I create two cylinders, just as you have, the hidden line version behaves exactly the same as the soft lines version (sketchup displays the sides as one big face, unless I display "hidden lines" then I can select each face individually).

                          Also, my hidden line cylinder looks identical to the soft line cylinder.

                          Can anyone comment on the intent behind creating these two different line styles? What is the "suggested" or intended use for each?

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                          • Rich O BrienR Offline
                            Rich O Brien Moderator
                            last edited by

                            Hi DanBIG,

                            Draw two circles and the right click as mentioned above to 'Explode Curve'

                            Explode Curve.jpg

                            Now both circles, because we have returned the circle to individual segments, instead of one polyline, SU creates a cylinder with individual faces...

                            Hide Lines.jpg

                            Hiding these faces do not merge the faces into one another again, it just hides the Edges(Vertices). Thus still enabling you to manipulate each face...

                            Difference.jpg

                            @unknownuser said:

                            What is the "suggested" or intended use for each?

                            SU, when it creates CURVES(POLYLINES), allows you to simulate smoothness. As SU natively uses only straight lines to create any curve, having the ability to simulate smoothness/roundness is necessary. When you select View>Hidden Geometry you are effectively asking SU to show both HIDDEN and SOFTENED lines.

                            To answer your question, which looks nicer?

                            Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp ๐Ÿ“–

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                            • mitcorbM Offline
                              mitcorb
                              last edited by

                              following up
                              doesn't it also affect how textures or materials are applied?

                              I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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                              • GaieusG Offline
                                Gaieus
                                last edited by

                                Regarding textures; it does not really control how they are applied but how you can apply them. I.e. you cannot manipulate texture mapping (positioning, projection etc) on curved surfaces only on singular face(t)s. In order to access these on curved surfaces and be able to do anything, you need to show hidden geometry first.

                                Gai...

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                                • GaieusG Offline
                                  Gaieus
                                  last edited by

                                  I have never noticed this...
                                  ๐Ÿ˜ฒ
                                  And we have a "search this topic" box as well!
                                  ๐Ÿ˜ฎ
                                  And I am an admin here for about three years now?
                                  ๐Ÿ˜’ ๐Ÿ˜ณ ๐Ÿ˜•


                                  SearchThisForum.png

                                  Gai...

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                                  • mitcorbM Offline
                                    mitcorb
                                    last edited by

                                    @Gaieus:
                                    No one is immune. ๐Ÿ˜‰
                                    I will probably be next.

                                    I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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                                    • thomthomT Offline
                                      thomthom
                                      last edited by

                                      ๐Ÿ˜†

                                      Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                      List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                      • pilouP Offline
                                        pilou
                                        last edited by

                                        Administrator is at first level
                                        Moderators second level
                                        Surfers users are in the hold ๐Ÿ˜„
                                        Mine Doh of the day ๐Ÿ˜’
                                        One research realised then the second one ... ๐Ÿ˜ณ


                                        doh.jpg

                                        Frenchy Pilou
                                        Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                        My Little site :)

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                                        • genma saotomeG Offline
                                          genma saotome
                                          last edited by

                                          @danbig said:

                                          @xrok1 said:

                                          i think the biggest duh moment of all that everbody (hopfully) goes through is realizing that it matters which way the faces are oriented.

                                          90% of the 3dwarehouse posters still havn't had that duh moment. ๐Ÿ˜†

                                          ...ok, I'd better ask, because my mind is blank after reading this.

                                          What do you mean, "it matters which way the faces are oriented"?

                                          This is either something I know, in different terms, or something I don't know at all.

                                          If you export SU models to other software that undestands cad models the "light colored" face is regarded as the surface normal -- an odd phase in itself -- but what that means is that face will change it's appearance per the intensity of the light plus angle of the surface normal relative to the light source whereas the reverse face -- the "dark one" -- does nothing. IOW, any kind of add'l rendering depends upon setting face orientation correctly.

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                                          • A Offline
                                            arklandesign
                                            last edited by

                                            I hardly ever mess with the axes settings, but have finally had a need to start using this and often found I would inadvertently set the blue axes downwards rather than up.

                                            Was watching a tutorial this morning, and found that if one triple clicks (after setting the red axis) it is automatically done correctly for you..... It was a Duhh !!! moment for me.

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