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    The "Duh!" thread (aka the Doh! thread)

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    • GaieusG 離線
      Gaieus
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      @unknownuser said:

      ...So what is the best method for Proxy-ing? To create a 2 layers of different components and toggle each one in a scene or is it to reload and displace the proxy via "RELOAD" when it comes time to render?

      Well, I don't think there's a general and always "true" answer to that. It would definitely depend on the particular model, the purpose, the workflow, even additional software (like renderers that can use SU proxies and instancing) etc.

      Gai...

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      • david_hD 離線
        david_h
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        That's what I was a-feared of.

        You know . .. of all the answers to life's questions. . .

        "well, that depends"

        has to be the least satisfying of them all. Thanx for the response anyway.

        💚

        so what is the most satisfying?

        If I make it look easy...It is probably easy

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        • GaieusG 離線
          Gaieus
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          Okay, I'll make a couple of short examples (but then I'll also split these posts off here and combine them with that). Is that okay? 😉
          The best would be of course, if others could also add some examples from their field of profession and workflow.

          Gai...

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          • T 離線
            Tekkybot
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            ah, heres some of my best duh moments. learning how to use groups/componenets, understanding the outliner, learning to use xray when after using follow me to clean up a curved model, and my fav duh so far, (this one stumpped me for months!) drawing on top of shapes with the pencil tool when things are made into groups/components to make model building easier and more precise.

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            • thomthomT 離線
              thomthom
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              Because you have internal faces which uses those edges?

              Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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              • pilouP 離線
                pilou
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                @unknownuser said:

                Because you have internal faces which uses those edges?

                This arrives when you make PushPull + CTRL 😉
                But you must clean after so...Duhduh above! 😄
                push.jpg

                Frenchy Pilou
                Is beautiful that please without concept!
                My Little site :)

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                • pilouP 離線
                  pilou
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                  Another one: after a Catmull Clark Subdivision 💚impossible.jpg
                  An headache for orient faces all in the same color 😮

                  Solution one click!: Same than above! 😉
                  Plugin Remove Inner faces then Right Click / Plugin "Orient Face" on a White face 😎

                  Frenchy Pilou
                  Is beautiful that please without concept!
                  My Little site :)

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                  • pilouP 離線
                    pilou
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                    Not a recent but a famous! 💚
                    The "after effect" 😒

                    Quasi all function in SU can be modify just after used it! 😮
                    Draw any line (circle... etc) in the good direction then type on the numeric keyboard measure wanted...
                    ...and... miracle! 💚
                    This is valuable for quasi all functions Move, Scale etc... 🤓

                    Frenchy Pilou
                    Is beautiful that please without concept!
                    My Little site :)

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                    • ToboboT 離線
                      Tobobo
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                      I've been using SU since V1 and the biggest du'h was when Coen said ‘if you want to delete loads around a set of geometry that you want to keep the use the +/- option on the select tool and this deselects the geometry you want and selects the stuff you want to delete.’ Which was on the @last forums so V5 😳

                      Toby

                      Philippians 4:13

                      I can do everything through him who gives me strength.

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                      • GaieusG 離線
                        Gaieus
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                        Indeed different (and endless numbers of) selection tricks is a kind of "art" which can sped up one's modelling workflow big time.

                        Gai...

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                        • thomthomT 離線
                          thomthom
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                          http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=22487

                          Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                          List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                          • A 離線
                            arklandesign
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                            hehe .....This is a funny and informative thread at the same time...

                            I have one... discovered by mistake yesterday.
                            If one is in a complicated model and want to focus attention to a particular part of the model, one can double click on the scroll wheel at the point one is interested in and that will centre that point in the middle of the screen....making orbiting even easier.

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                            • GaieusG 離線
                              Gaieus
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                              Doh... 😕

                              I didn't know that.

                              But at least now I understand why my models "jump" from time to time - I obviously (accidentally) double click with my mouse. 😳

                              Gai...

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                              • pilouP 離線
                                pilou
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                                @unknownuser said:

                                one can double click on the scroll wheel

                                Tricky! ☀
                                Maybe there is another thing wiht the triple click on the Wheel! 😮

                                Frenchy Pilou
                                Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                My Little site :)

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                                • plot-parisP 離線
                                  plot-paris
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                                  @gaieus said:

                                  But at least now I understand why my models "jump" from time to time - I obviously (accidentally) double click with my mouse. 😳

                                  now it makes sense at last... its me, not a buggy SketchUp 😳

                                  another one: I am currently working on a fairly complex model. lots of nested groups...
                                  I was somewhere deep down on the hierarchy, modeling on some walls, when suddenly all newly created geometry turned transparent. when I painted another colour to the faces, they ceased being transparent.
                                  I checked the default material in the styles editor... you can't even set a transparency value there.
                                  I closed SketchUp and reopened it. still the same.
                                  I copied the whole model into a new SketchUp file. yet again: all newly created geometry turned transparent...

                                  ... and then it hit me... at some point while modelling and texturing, I must have accidentally painted over the parent-group with a glass material. most of the geometry within this group was supposed to be a stone wall, therefore a texture applied directly to the geometry. when I now created some new faces, these were coloured with the default material of course... but the transparent glass material on the group overwrote it...

                                  how can someone be soooo slow, it took me almost 15 minutes to find out. I had to hit the Homer button twice!!! 😳

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                                  • broomstickB 離線
                                    broomstick
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                                    my duh moment:

                                    when you rotate something, and you touch the rotation tool that appears on screen, the rotation will snap on the simbols of the rotation tool.

                                    If you change the rotation snaps, the rotation tool changes consequently.

                                    very, very duh

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                                    • G 離線
                                      Gruff
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                                      More of an Ahh! than a Duh!

                                      1. Discovered that ALT-Push/Pull will move a loose planar face in the face normal

                                      I find I need to create duplicate parallel faces offset from the body a lot.

                                      1. To do this I use CTRL-Push/Pull to make a copy extrude.
                                        Rotate the model view 90 degrees to the face normal
                                        then use a right to left select window to select the extruded side faces,
                                        then press the Delete key.

                                      I'm left with a face normal to and inline with the original at a distance.

                                      Resistance is .... Character Forming. Grin

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                                      • E 離線
                                        Ecuadorian
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                                        @gruff said:

                                        Discovered that ALT-Push/Pull will move a loose planar face in the face normal

                                        Thank you! I had been foolishly using the "move" tool for that. 👍

                                        -Miguel Lescano
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                                        • plot-parisP 離線
                                          plot-paris
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                                          wow, cool. didn't know about that eihter. but what I would even more like to see is a push/pull like this:
                                          strange_pushpull.jpg

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                                          • E 離線
                                            Ecuadorian
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                                            +1. That would be my #1 wish for SU8.

                                            -Miguel Lescano
                                            Subscribe to my house plans YouTube channel! (30K+ subs)

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