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    • jeff hammondJ Offline
      jeff hammond
      last edited by

      i'm not sure this qualifies as a 'duh' moment because it's actually an application duh.. when i finally figured out this workaround though, it was a big relief..

      it has to do with dividing arc/circles into a certain amount of segments.. say you need 16 segments in an arc.. sketchup may let you change the amount so you think you're good to go.. later in the model, you might need another arc with the same amount of segments but this time, sketchup won't let you change it to the same amount..

      the workaround is this: change the amount to 1 higher than you need (17 instead of 16 for instance) THen change that arc to 16..

      i have no idea why SU won't just let me divide into the proper amounts in the first place and i previously had some headache workarounds to deal with this..

      dotdotdot

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      • pilouP Offline
        pilou
        last edited by

        cool to know that! ovoid some circular headaches โ˜€

        Frenchy Pilou
        Is beautiful that please without concept!
        My Little site :)

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        • free agentF Offline
          free agent
          last edited by

          @paulside said:

          Come on, Own up, how many of us have tried to orbit a jpg ! ๐Ÿคฃ

          jeez ive tried to orbit word documents ๐Ÿค“

          http:i167.photobucket.comalbumsu143FreeAgent84bug.gif

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          • david_hD Offline
            david_h
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            @gaieus said:

            How about creating only "dummy" or "proxy" components?

            So what is the best method for Proxy-ing? To create a 2 layers of different components and toggle each one in a scene or is it to reload and displace the proxy via "RELOAD" when it comes time to render?

            Just Curious since I am dealing with that issue as we speak.

            David_H

            If I make it look easy...It is probably easy

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            • GaieusG Offline
              Gaieus
              last edited by

              @unknownuser said:

              ...So what is the best method for Proxy-ing? To create a 2 layers of different components and toggle each one in a scene or is it to reload and displace the proxy via "RELOAD" when it comes time to render?

              Well, I don't think there's a general and always "true" answer to that. It would definitely depend on the particular model, the purpose, the workflow, even additional software (like renderers that can use SU proxies and instancing) etc.

              Gai...

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              • david_hD Offline
                david_h
                last edited by

                That's what I was a-feared of.

                You know . .. of all the answers to life's questions. . .

                "well, that depends"

                has to be the least satisfying of them all. Thanx for the response anyway.

                ๐Ÿ’š

                so what is the most satisfying?

                If I make it look easy...It is probably easy

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                • GaieusG Offline
                  Gaieus
                  last edited by

                  Okay, I'll make a couple of short examples (but then I'll also split these posts off here and combine them with that). Is that okay? ๐Ÿ˜‰
                  The best would be of course, if others could also add some examples from their field of profession and workflow.

                  Gai...

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                  • T Offline
                    Tekkybot
                    last edited by

                    ah, heres some of my best duh moments. learning how to use groups/componenets, understanding the outliner, learning to use xray when after using follow me to clean up a curved model, and my fav duh so far, (this one stumpped me for months!) drawing on top of shapes with the pencil tool when things are made into groups/components to make model building easier and more precise.

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                    • thomthomT Offline
                      thomthom
                      last edited by

                      Because you have internal faces which uses those edges?

                      Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                      List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                      • pilouP Offline
                        pilou
                        last edited by

                        @unknownuser said:

                        Because you have internal faces which uses those edges?

                        This arrives when you make PushPull + CTRL ๐Ÿ˜‰
                        But you must clean after so...Duhduh above! ๐Ÿ˜„
                        push.jpg

                        Frenchy Pilou
                        Is beautiful that please without concept!
                        My Little site :)

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                        • pilouP Offline
                          pilou
                          last edited by

                          Another one: after a Catmull Clark Subdivision ๐Ÿ’šimpossible.jpg
                          An headache for orient faces all in the same color ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

                          Solution one click!: Same than above! ๐Ÿ˜‰
                          Plugin Remove Inner faces then Right Click / Plugin "Orient Face" on a White face ๐Ÿ˜Ž

                          Frenchy Pilou
                          Is beautiful that please without concept!
                          My Little site :)

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                          • pilouP Offline
                            pilou
                            last edited by

                            Not a recent but a famous! ๐Ÿ’š
                            The "after effect" ๐Ÿ˜’

                            Quasi all function in SU can be modify just after used it! ๐Ÿ˜ฎ
                            Draw any line (circle... etc) in the good direction then type on the numeric keyboard measure wanted...
                            ...and... miracle! ๐Ÿ’š
                            This is valuable for quasi all functions Move, Scale etc... ๐Ÿค“

                            Frenchy Pilou
                            Is beautiful that please without concept!
                            My Little site :)

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                            • ToboboT Offline
                              Tobobo
                              last edited by

                              I've been using SU since V1 and the biggest du'h was when Coen said โ€˜if you want to delete loads around a set of geometry that you want to keep the use the +/- option on the select tool and this deselects the geometry you want and selects the stuff you want to delete.โ€™ Which was on the @last forums so V5 ๐Ÿ˜ณ

                              Toby

                              Philippians 4:13

                              I can do everything through him who gives me strength.

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                              • GaieusG Offline
                                Gaieus
                                last edited by

                                Indeed different (and endless numbers of) selection tricks is a kind of "art" which can sped up one's modelling workflow big time.

                                Gai...

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                                • thomthomT Offline
                                  thomthom
                                  last edited by

                                  http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=22487

                                  Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                  List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                  • A Offline
                                    arklandesign
                                    last edited by

                                    hehe .....This is a funny and informative thread at the same time...

                                    I have one... discovered by mistake yesterday.
                                    If one is in a complicated model and want to focus attention to a particular part of the model, one can double click on the scroll wheel at the point one is interested in and that will centre that point in the middle of the screen....making orbiting even easier.

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                                    • GaieusG Offline
                                      Gaieus
                                      last edited by

                                      Doh... ๐Ÿ˜•

                                      I didn't know that.

                                      But at least now I understand why my models "jump" from time to time - I obviously (accidentally) double click with my mouse. ๐Ÿ˜ณ

                                      Gai...

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                                      • pilouP Offline
                                        pilou
                                        last edited by

                                        @unknownuser said:

                                        one can double click on the scroll wheel

                                        Tricky! โ˜€
                                        Maybe there is another thing wiht the triple click on the Wheel! ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

                                        Frenchy Pilou
                                        Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                        My Little site :)

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                                        • plot-parisP Offline
                                          plot-paris
                                          last edited by

                                          @gaieus said:

                                          But at least now I understand why my models "jump" from time to time - I obviously (accidentally) double click with my mouse. ๐Ÿ˜ณ

                                          now it makes sense at last... its me, not a buggy SketchUp ๐Ÿ˜ณ

                                          another one: I am currently working on a fairly complex model. lots of nested groups...
                                          I was somewhere deep down on the hierarchy, modeling on some walls, when suddenly all newly created geometry turned transparent. when I painted another colour to the faces, they ceased being transparent.
                                          I checked the default material in the styles editor... you can't even set a transparency value there.
                                          I closed SketchUp and reopened it. still the same.
                                          I copied the whole model into a new SketchUp file. yet again: all newly created geometry turned transparent...

                                          ... and then it hit me... at some point while modelling and texturing, I must have accidentally painted over the parent-group with a glass material. most of the geometry within this group was supposed to be a stone wall, therefore a texture applied directly to the geometry. when I now created some new faces, these were coloured with the default material of course... but the transparent glass material on the group overwrote it...

                                          how can someone be soooo slow, it took me almost 15 minutes to find out. I had to hit the Homer button twice!!! ๐Ÿ˜ณ

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                                          • broomstickB Offline
                                            broomstick
                                            last edited by

                                            my duh moment:

                                            when you rotate something, and you touch the rotation tool that appears on screen, the rotation will snap on the simbols of the rotation tool.

                                            If you change the rotation snaps, the rotation tool changes consequently.

                                            very, very duh

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