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    • thomthomT Offline
      thomthom
      last edited by

      Ah, wonder how I missed such a recent thread on this. Oh well.

      So did you also want to make a selection of instances into individual group?

      Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
      List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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      • free agentF Offline
        free agent
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        ? no just similar groups to components... 👍

        http:i167.photobucket.comalbumsu143FreeAgent84bug.gif

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        • bagateloB Offline
          bagatelo
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          thomthom

          Very good, I like the script very much.

          Maybe you can improve the script by make loop selection also in horizontal, not only vertical.

          While the cat's away, the mice will play

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          • thomthomT Offline
            thomthom
            last edited by

            @bagatelo said:

            thomthom

            Very good, I like the script very much.

            Maybe you can improve the script by make loop selection also in horizontal, not only vertical.

            It has not concept of horizontal or vertical. Effectively if you have a cube, select an horizontal line to get a vertical selection, select a vertical line to get a horizontal selection.

            It simply starts with the faces on either side of the edge you select and keeps on selecting the opposite faces and edges.

            Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
            List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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            • bagateloB Offline
              bagatelo
              last edited by

              I'm sorry to not explain corret to you, before.

              http://i37.tinypic.com/29yfwqq.jpg.gif

              While the cat's away, the mice will play

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              • thomthomT Offline
                thomthom
                last edited by

                Ah, yes. I understand now. I will be looking into more looping variations. But no guaranties. This first type was very easy to do.

                btw, what application did you use to create the animation?

                Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                • F Offline
                  Fletch
                  last edited by

                  Thanks Thomas!

                  please only update original post with new plugin release... now I'm confused which is latest version of the ruby I should d/l thanks.

                  re: converting similar groups to components - I seconded the request! and I will use it!

                  re: loop selection... I have desired this many times... we will see how well it works in practice 😄

                  Fletch
                  Twilight Render Cross-platform Plugin for SketchUp on PC or Mac

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                  • thomthomT Offline
                    thomthom
                    last edited by

                    @earthmover said:

                    Right on Thomas! Thanks for your efforts! Now if I can only get that damn loop selection tool. 😄

                    Here's a beta of version 1.1.1b.
                    (beta removed. obsolete)

                    Highlight one edge and click 'Select Loop'.

                    I've only tried this is faces of four sides. The script currently make this assumption as well, so I don't know how it behaves if you throw in less or more edges.

                    Here's my test model:
                    loop selection test.skp


                    loop_ani.gif

                    Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                    List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                    • thomthomT Offline
                      thomthom
                      last edited by

                      @fletch said:

                      please only update original post with new plugin release... now I'm confused which is latest version of the ruby I should d/l thanks.

                      Sorry for the confusion. The one I posted further down in this thread was a beta. Experimental. After some more testing making sure it did what it should do I updated the one in the original post. To avoid further confusion I've removed the other versions now.

                      @fletch said:

                      re: loop selection... I have desired this many times... we will see how well it works in practice 😄

                      Yea, I've not tried it out on very irregular cases. Not sure how it will handle really weird geometry. In order to improve the edge/face selection tool I need to study more the SU API on how to deal with edges, faces and determining their direction and relationships. If anyone with some experience would like to jump in and add some more tools I'd be most happy.

                      Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                      List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                        urs0815
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                        thank you for this useful tool!

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                          GUNAWAN W
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                          thank's a milion Thomas.

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                          • bigstickB Offline
                            bigstick
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                            Nice one Thomas! This should improve my productivity no end! 👍

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                            • K Offline
                              Kyprus
                              last edited by

                              Hello:
                              New to the forum. Had to join when I found this tool.
                              Saves me a ton of time. Thanks for the plug-in. 😃

                              I was however wondering if there is a plug-in that
                              once you have selected a bunch of polygon's that you
                              could evenly subtract or add to your selection by using
                              the "plus" and "minus" keys. I'll try to elaborate a bit.
                              Say you have a a rectangle evenly divided into five
                              sections you select the end polygon and you can then press
                              the "plus" key and it will select the polygon's next to it.
                              Then you can press the "minus" key to subtract. this would
                              work the same as if you used the "select/connection faces"
                              in the right click menu, but sadly there is no subtracting.
                              The reason for this request is = if you have allot of
                              polygons selected, and you move the selection and you want
                              to subtract a row of polygon, you have to unselect all,
                              reselect one row less and make change and repeat each time.

                              Unless I'm missing something that pre-exists in SU
                              already, this would be great.

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                              • jim smithJ Offline
                                jim smith
                                last edited by

                                Thanks Thomas, I will find being able to turn a number of groups into components very usefull. 😄

                                "Out of clutter find simplicity,
                                from discord find harmony,
                                In the middle of difficulty lies opportunity"
                                Albert Einstein

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                                • thomthomT Offline
                                  thomthom
                                  last edited by

                                  Updated with some more selection tools.

                                  Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                  List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                  • thomthomT Offline
                                    thomthom
                                    last edited by

                                    @kyprus said:

                                    Hello:
                                    New to the forum. Had to join when I found this tool.
                                    Saves me a ton of time. Thanks for the plug-in. 😃

                                    I was however wondering if there is a plug-in that
                                    once you have selected a bunch of polygon's that you
                                    could evenly subtract or add to your selection by using
                                    the "plus" and "minus" keys. I'll try to elaborate a bit.
                                    Say you have a a rectangle evenly divided into five
                                    sections you select the end polygon and you can then press
                                    the "plus" key and it will select the polygon's next to it.
                                    Then you can press the "minus" key to subtract. this would
                                    work the same as if you used the "select/connection faces"
                                    in the right click menu, but sadly there is no subtracting.
                                    The reason for this request is = if you have allot of
                                    polygons selected, and you move the selection and you want
                                    to subtract a row of polygon, you have to unselect all,
                                    reselect one row less and make change and repeat each time.

                                    Unless I'm missing something that pre-exists in SU
                                    already, this would be great.

                                    This is one of the things I'd like to add. I have a few more ideas for selection tools that are a bit more interactive allowing the user to play around with the selection.

                                    Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                    List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                    • K Offline
                                      kwistenbiebel
                                      last edited by

                                      @Kyprus and ThomTom:
                                      Actually that is how you do it in the Maxwell Studio.
                                      I don't find it the best way though.

                                      The way Cinema4D does it, is much handier:
                                      You just hover above the geometry while holding the left mouse button.
                                      Every polygon your hovering mouse touches will get selected. Holding shift adds to the selection and Holding CTRL will substract from the selection.
                                      It's a perfect tool which is called 'Soft selection Tool' in modelers lingo.

                                      You can use it to select polygons, lines or points.(before you do the soft selection you click polygon mode, edges mode or vertices mode).
                                      Works like a charm...

                                      It is quite strange that no one thought of making a ruby like this for Sketchup.
                                      Especially when you know that Fredo6 uses parts of that principle in his Surface Tools plugin.

                                      By the way: @ThomTom: Very nice Plugin you made there 👍
                                      Thanks for that.

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                                      • thomthomT Offline
                                        thomthom
                                        last edited by

                                        To me soft selection is a different matter. I used 3DS Max previously and if you do a soft selection it's like you select with a soft feathered brush. vertexes at the far edge of the selection is affected less when you do modification such as move or rotate on the selection.

                                        I'd very much like to hear different ideas of doing selections.

                                        One of the things I'd like to make is that after you have make your 'master selection' you can use modifier keys to toggle between edges, faces.
                                        I think what would be useful is a set of selection tools which when you activate them you can choose if they add to or subtract from your existing selection.

                                        Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                        List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                        • K Offline
                                          Kyprus
                                          last edited by

                                          kwistenbiebel: Not sure I'm to keen on that type of selection.
                                          Primarily due to the fact that there is allot of screen-play
                                          to get to some of the polygon that are not in view. I still
                                          believe that just hitting the "plus" or "minus" keys would
                                          quicken the procedure.

                                          I'm not really new to this idea, I can't even take credit. The
                                          conceptual idea I got it from was Wings3D. "In my opinion", Wings3D
                                          is the most easiest 3D software ever made. I used it for years.
                                          but unfortunately it doesn't have one thing I do like, the means
                                          to use metric or feet. It's based on a numerical choice = if 2.0
                                          is two inches or if 20.0 is two inches, so be it. Then no matter
                                          what you have decided taking it into another software, (such as
                                          SU), you still have to re-size. So, I use SU to do most, if not all
                                          of my Mesh work now.

                                          As for some of the selection ideas:
                                          I think I may have a list to assist. Yet, I warn you that
                                          I would be compiling this list from what I have used in
                                          Wings3D for it's simplicity.

                                          Edge Loop: Selecting only the vertices's in a loop.

                                          Similar: Selecting only the polygon with the same dimensions.

                                          Edge Loop Region: Selecting the vertices's and highlighting the
                                          polygon(s) that are on one end from this loop selection.

                                          Invert Selection: (Speaks for itself but I will elaborate).
                                          Say, you have a square with only one polygon selected, but
                                          you want the others selected instead.

                                          There are many others I could list, (but) I don't want to over
                                          do it. Sadly, I could only direct you to view Wings3D for
                                          additional tools, (Its free) >lol<

                                          Thank you for your responce. And again, thank you very
                                          much for the additional tool/plugin.

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                                          • thomthomT Offline
                                            thomthom
                                            last edited by

                                            Haven't tried Wings3D. But I'm always up to try new tools.

                                            I've had some play around with the trial of Modo and I like some of the selection tools present there.

                                            Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                            List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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