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    thomthom
    last edited by 14 Dec 2008, 16:50

    Ah, yes. I understand now. I will be looking into more looping variations. But no guaranties. This first type was very easy to do.

    btw, what application did you use to create the animation?

    Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
    List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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      Fletch
      last edited by 16 Dec 2008, 00:07

      Thanks Thomas!

      please only update original post with new plugin release... now I'm confused which is latest version of the ruby I should d/l thanks.

      re: converting similar groups to components - I seconded the request! and I will use it!

      re: loop selection... I have desired this many times... we will see how well it works in practice πŸ˜„

      Fletch
      Twilight Render Cross-platform Plugin for SketchUp on PC or Mac

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        thomthom
        last edited by 16 Dec 2008, 09:12

        @earthmover said:

        Right on Thomas! Thanks for your efforts! Now if I can only get that damn loop selection tool. πŸ˜„

        Here's a beta of version 1.1.1b.
        (beta removed. obsolete)

        Highlight one edge and click 'Select Loop'.

        I've only tried this is faces of four sides. The script currently make this assumption as well, so I don't know how it behaves if you throw in less or more edges.

        Here's my test model:
        loop selection test.skp


        loop_ani.gif

        Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
        List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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          thomthom
          last edited by 16 Dec 2008, 09:23

          @fletch said:

          please only update original post with new plugin release... now I'm confused which is latest version of the ruby I should d/l thanks.

          Sorry for the confusion. The one I posted further down in this thread was a beta. Experimental. After some more testing making sure it did what it should do I updated the one in the original post. To avoid further confusion I've removed the other versions now.

          @fletch said:

          re: loop selection... I have desired this many times... we will see how well it works in practice πŸ˜„

          Yea, I've not tried it out on very irregular cases. Not sure how it will handle really weird geometry. In order to improve the edge/face selection tool I need to study more the SU API on how to deal with edges, faces and determining their direction and relationships. If anyone with some experience would like to jump in and add some more tools I'd be most happy.

          Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
          List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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            urs0815
            last edited by 16 Dec 2008, 09:42

            thank you for this useful tool!

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              GUNAWAN W
              last edited by 4 Jan 2009, 09:40

              thank's a milion Thomas.

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                bigstick
                last edited by 4 Jan 2009, 10:42

                Nice one Thomas! This should improve my productivity no end! πŸ‘

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                  Kyprus
                  last edited by 4 Jan 2009, 13:53

                  Hello:
                  New to the forum. Had to join when I found this tool.
                  Saves me a ton of time. Thanks for the plug-in. πŸ˜ƒ

                  I was however wondering if there is a plug-in that
                  once you have selected a bunch of polygon's that you
                  could evenly subtract or add to your selection by using
                  the "plus" and "minus" keys. I'll try to elaborate a bit.
                  Say you have a a rectangle evenly divided into five
                  sections you select the end polygon and you can then press
                  the "plus" key and it will select the polygon's next to it.
                  Then you can press the "minus" key to subtract. this would
                  work the same as if you used the "select/connection faces"
                  in the right click menu, but sadly there is no subtracting.
                  The reason for this request is = if you have allot of
                  polygons selected, and you move the selection and you want
                  to subtract a row of polygon, you have to unselect all,
                  reselect one row less and make change and repeat each time.

                  Unless I'm missing something that pre-exists in SU
                  already, this would be great.

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                    jim smith
                    last edited by 4 Jan 2009, 17:16

                    Thanks Thomas, I will find being able to turn a number of groups into components very usefull. πŸ˜„

                    "Out of clutter find simplicity,
                    from discord find harmony,
                    In the middle of difficulty lies opportunity"
                    Albert Einstein

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                      thomthom
                      last edited by 8 Jan 2009, 12:01

                      Updated with some more selection tools.

                      Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                      List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                        thomthom
                        last edited by 8 Jan 2009, 12:03

                        @kyprus said:

                        Hello:
                        New to the forum. Had to join when I found this tool.
                        Saves me a ton of time. Thanks for the plug-in. πŸ˜ƒ

                        I was however wondering if there is a plug-in that
                        once you have selected a bunch of polygon's that you
                        could evenly subtract or add to your selection by using
                        the "plus" and "minus" keys. I'll try to elaborate a bit.
                        Say you have a a rectangle evenly divided into five
                        sections you select the end polygon and you can then press
                        the "plus" key and it will select the polygon's next to it.
                        Then you can press the "minus" key to subtract. this would
                        work the same as if you used the "select/connection faces"
                        in the right click menu, but sadly there is no subtracting.
                        The reason for this request is = if you have allot of
                        polygons selected, and you move the selection and you want
                        to subtract a row of polygon, you have to unselect all,
                        reselect one row less and make change and repeat each time.

                        Unless I'm missing something that pre-exists in SU
                        already, this would be great.

                        This is one of the things I'd like to add. I have a few more ideas for selection tools that are a bit more interactive allowing the user to play around with the selection.

                        Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                        List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                          kwistenbiebel
                          last edited by 8 Jan 2009, 12:17

                          @Kyprus and ThomTom:
                          Actually that is how you do it in the Maxwell Studio.
                          I don't find it the best way though.

                          The way Cinema4D does it, is much handier:
                          You just hover above the geometry while holding the left mouse button.
                          Every polygon your hovering mouse touches will get selected. Holding shift adds to the selection and Holding CTRL will substract from the selection.
                          It's a perfect tool which is called 'Soft selection Tool' in modelers lingo.

                          You can use it to select polygons, lines or points.(before you do the soft selection you click polygon mode, edges mode or vertices mode).
                          Works like a charm...

                          It is quite strange that no one thought of making a ruby like this for Sketchup.
                          Especially when you know that Fredo6 uses parts of that principle in his Surface Tools plugin.

                          By the way: @ThomTom: Very nice Plugin you made there πŸ‘
                          Thanks for that.

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                            thomthom
                            last edited by 8 Jan 2009, 12:42

                            To me soft selection is a different matter. I used 3DS Max previously and if you do a soft selection it's like you select with a soft feathered brush. vertexes at the far edge of the selection is affected less when you do modification such as move or rotate on the selection.

                            I'd very much like to hear different ideas of doing selections.

                            One of the things I'd like to make is that after you have make your 'master selection' you can use modifier keys to toggle between edges, faces.
                            I think what would be useful is a set of selection tools which when you activate them you can choose if they add to or subtract from your existing selection.

                            Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                            List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                              Kyprus
                              last edited by 8 Jan 2009, 17:21

                              kwistenbiebel: Not sure I'm to keen on that type of selection.
                              Primarily due to the fact that there is allot of screen-play
                              to get to some of the polygon that are not in view. I still
                              believe that just hitting the "plus" or "minus" keys would
                              quicken the procedure.

                              I'm not really new to this idea, I can't even take credit. The
                              conceptual idea I got it from was Wings3D. "In my opinion", Wings3D
                              is the most easiest 3D software ever made. I used it for years.
                              but unfortunately it doesn't have one thing I do like, the means
                              to use metric or feet. It's based on a numerical choice = if 2.0
                              is two inches or if 20.0 is two inches, so be it. Then no matter
                              what you have decided taking it into another software, (such as
                              SU), you still have to re-size. So, I use SU to do most, if not all
                              of my Mesh work now.

                              As for some of the selection ideas:
                              I think I may have a list to assist. Yet, I warn you that
                              I would be compiling this list from what I have used in
                              Wings3D for it's simplicity.

                              Edge Loop: Selecting only the vertices's in a loop.

                              Similar: Selecting only the polygon with the same dimensions.

                              Edge Loop Region: Selecting the vertices's and highlighting the
                              polygon(s) that are on one end from this loop selection.

                              Invert Selection: (Speaks for itself but I will elaborate).
                              Say, you have a square with only one polygon selected, but
                              you want the others selected instead.

                              There are many others I could list, (but) I don't want to over
                              do it. Sadly, I could only direct you to view Wings3D for
                              additional tools, (Its free) >lol<

                              Thank you for your responce. And again, thank you very
                              much for the additional tool/plugin.

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                                thomthom
                                last edited by 8 Jan 2009, 17:37

                                Haven't tried Wings3D. But I'm always up to try new tools.

                                I've had some play around with the trial of Modo and I like some of the selection tools present there.

                                Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                  Kyprus
                                  last edited by 8 Jan 2009, 18:05

                                  Yeah Modo looks sweet, kinda' reminded me of Blender,
                                  you know the one you have to be a micro physicist.

                                  I will/can say, Wings3D doesn't do all that. It's just
                                  a simple modeler/mesh manipulator.

                                  I presently use Strata for rendering. Although, I
                                  haven't had to do much rendering of late.

                                  SU has definitely made things easier for me, I thought
                                  I was going to be stuck with Wings, until I stumbled
                                  across SU.

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                                    Kyprus
                                    last edited by 9 Jan 2009, 01:09

                                    ThomThom: I downloaded the update on your "selection toys".
                                    After a while my right click selection tools grey out and
                                    I cannot select anything. Never had this problem so I took out
                                    the plug-in and things worked fine.

                                    This might be a conflicting with another plug-in I have
                                    but the version I had before didn't cause this problem.
                                    Not sure which version it was. might be simple to add the
                                    version # to the .rb when you update.

                                    Not sure if anyone else is having this issue.
                                    Thought you would like to know.

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                                      thomthom
                                      last edited by 9 Jan 2009, 07:21

                                      HM.. that's odd. I'm not actually sure you you mean either when you say "right click selection tools grey out".
                                      You get no right-click menu?

                                      Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                      List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                        thomthom
                                        last edited by 9 Jan 2009, 07:29

                                        By the way Kyprus: if you have the Ruby Console open and that thing happen, do you get messages then?

                                        Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                        List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                          Kyprus
                                          last edited by 9 Jan 2009, 08:07

                                          I get a right click menu but most of it greys out when
                                          I know they should be there.

                                          Yes, I have a ruby console. Not sure why. I haven't had
                                          the time nor patience to figure it all out. I'll place
                                          the plug-in back in the proper directory and see if there
                                          is anything in the console.

                                          I did have to use the plug-in. so, I placed it back
                                          into the plugins directory, I forgot about it and it
                                          happened again. but once I deleted it out of the directory
                                          re-started SU all was fine. This doesn't happen right away.
                                          it takes time for it to arise. but, it has happen twice
                                          but solved when I delete the .rb . (this was earlier today/
                                          last night).

                                          But I will see if anything is in the console next time. πŸ˜‰

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