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    [Plugin] Boolean--OSCoolean (Dec 2013) for SU 8 up free ver

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    • E Offline
      Esquimo
      last edited by

      Ok, again, very sorry.
      I've found out on the pages that i didnt read.
      Hehe.
      View/tool palette/OSCoolean.

      there i go...

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        Esquimo
        last edited by

        Ok, i installed the plugin, viewed the toolbar BUT, if i create 2 components and then select one of the boolean tool, when i try to select any of the 2 components, nothing happens. I cant even seem to be able to select the components, meaning they dont outline in blue. I have to unselect the boolean tool and try again. But nothing changes and it still doesnt do it.
        Also i looked like it would work with 2 groups instead of components, meaning i can at least select the 2 groups but coolean is processing... forever with actually resulting in anything.

        any tips?

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          Esquimo
          last edited by

          So here is the error message from the console:

          Error: #<NoMethodError: undefined method best_picked' for nil:NilClass> (eval):108:in set_current_point'
          (eval):83:in `onLButtonUp'

          and here is a screenshot of my plugins folder.

          I'm voluntarily ommitting to upload the .skp file as it is probably the same as JSPRO, a simple cylinder component and a simple rectangle component. Nothing else.


          mySketchupPluginsFolder.jpg

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          • yanrothwellY Offline
            yanrothwell
            last edited by

            Hello,
            I have OSCoolean working on free Sketchup 8, but I am struggling with grouped objects - attached image is a frame of a shed like structure. I'm trying to 'cut out' the frame ends where they meet the floor boards... Anyone assist me possibly? Oh - when I try to execute OSCoolean it just hangs on the 'OS Coolean is processing.....'

            Thanks very much for any tips in advance. This forum is grand!
            Ian


            floor and frames.jpg

            http://www.ianrothwell.co.uk

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            • TIGT Offline
              TIG Moderator
              last edited by

              Presumably the floorboards AND posts etc are raw geometry in their respective groups... no nested groups.
              Edit the post's group [double-click].
              View > Component Edit > Hide Rest of Model [works on Components AND Groups]
              Now the floorboards etc are hidden.
              Select All and use context-menu Intersect with Model.
              Lines appear around the posts etc where they intersect the floorboards.
              Change the View to a Side-elevation, without Perspective, and use Select with a fence right>left to catch all of the unwanted geometry below floor level.
              Press Delete to remove all of the highlighted parts.
              Exit the edit, now the posts etc should be neatly trimmed to the top of the floorboards...

              TIG

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              • TIGT Offline
                TIG Moderator
                last edited by

                Sorry, I misunderstood.
                'Cut out' versus 'Cut off'...

                If the floorboards are individual groups/unique-component-instances you will need edit each one in turn, select its geometry and Intersect with model, to get a cutout for each post etc.
                because those cutouts aren't readily 'selectable'... you can either PushPull their faces to form a hole in the plank [remember that for subsequent PushPull operations you can just double-click on a face and the same distance is used], or use the Erase tool to remove some edges to make suitable holes [or pick-select the faces and press the Delete key].

                Of course you only need to make these 'holes' if you intend showing the construction sequence [or you have OCD], otherwise intersecting the two posts and floorboards groups will add lines around the intersections and the unseen geometry will only be hidden from view, adding a little unnecessary load to view rendering etc, but nothing more...

                The trick of setting your View to hide other objects whilst editing is useful, and toggles [make a shortcut] - sometimes you want other things out of the way, but sometimes they are useful to snap onto etc...

                TIG

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                • yanrothwellY Offline
                  yanrothwell
                  last edited by

                  Old school and fast. Thanks. I should have explained myself better, sorry. I need to cut the floor boards around the post (rather than cut the posts), I've got the floor boards individually grouped, then all of them in one single group - is that what you mean by 'nested' group?... 'Intersect with model' doesn't cut out. That's why I was hoping OSCoolean would do it in one command... Anyway to do this efficiently?

                  http://www.ianrothwell.co.uk

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                  • yanrothwellY Offline
                    yanrothwell
                    last edited by

                    Thanks again, Is that a 'no' for OSCoolean then? I do somethimes have a tendency to be a little OCD on these things, but this occasion I need to show instructions for a pdf guide, so, yeah, visible cut-aways on the boards... A bit of a shame. Incidentally, it'd be great if on this forum there were a 'thanks' button I could click on when us learners find a particular post useful (like over at XDA Devlelopers website) - useful because posters can have an incentive to post clear requests (with details attached etc) and show appreciation to the more experienced, without having to post 'thanks'... bla bla..

                    Thanks!

                    http://www.ianrothwell.co.uk

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                    • TIGT Offline
                      TIG Moderator
                      last edited by

                      A plank-group and a post-group in the same 'context' might well 'trim' with this tool [that depends on their geometry]. But then that means either exploding the grouped planks [or posts] first, OR exploding all of the plank [or post] groups inside their main group...

                      TIG

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                      • yanrothwellY Offline
                        yanrothwell
                        last edited by

                        @tig said:

                        A plank-group and a post-group in the same 'context' might well 'trim' with this tool [that depends on their geometry]. But then that means either exploding the grouped planks [or posts] first, OR exploding all of the plank [or post] groups inside their main group...

                        Yeah thought as much... thanks. Could this OSCooelan be modified so it 'searches' grouped objects then searches if there are sub-groups? Does that make sense? Then it could work within groups so we didn't have to explode and lose the advantage of things individually grouped? ❓ 💭

                        http://www.ianrothwell.co.uk

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                        • Mistro11M Offline
                          Mistro11
                          last edited by

                          Thanks for this plugin Oscar!

                          It works on my system but it seems to hang and reset sometimes but I could be just using it wrong. First I tried simple primitive boxes and the subtraction worked fine.

                          I then tried it on a grouped shipping container to see if I could get a clean cut with a rectangle. The message at the bottom says it's processing. I wait a while and then move my mouse to see if Sketchup is frozen. The mouse moves and I am prompted to choose again like the process of completing the operation was cancelled and I'm automatically back to selecting the groups.

                          I then went back to doing simple tests. I tried 2 boxes with one turned horizontally 45% and it worked. Then I tried to add a cylinder to the 2 merged box group and got the same result as the shipping container. Tried again to merge a cylinder with a square from scratch and the same problem as before. Is there a trick to this or some limitations I should consider when using this tool? Should I leave the mouse alone??

                          i7-4930k @3.4/3.7GHz, 32Gb RAM, NVidia GTX 980Ti 6Gb, Windows 7 Pro 64bit
                          Structural Integrity is Not Just Physical...It's in the Design and Purpose

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                            NickMalvern
                            last edited by

                            Can anyone help?
                            I am new to SU8, have loaded OSCoolean - and have the toolbar active...
                            BUT when I select one of the OSC icons and then TRY to select my objects, I can't - it just will not let me select anything!
                            I have 2 simple test objects - much as shown in the videos.
                            At present I'm completely stumped - just can not work out how to move on from here.

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                            • TIGT Offline
                              TIG Moderator
                              last edited by

                              Open the Ruby Console and retry...
                              Any error messages ?

                              TIG

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                                NickMalvern
                                last edited by

                                I actually omitted to say that I have opened the Roiby Console - although I admit I don't understand how to use it.
                                It just shows two empty boxes whatever I do - no error messages, no nothing!

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                                • thomthomT Offline
                                  thomthom
                                  last edited by

                                  Can you post sample model?

                                  Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                  List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                  • TIGT Offline
                                    TIG Moderator
                                    last edited by

                                    You don't need to 'do' anything with the Ruby Console - just read/report if it has any messages in it...
                                    As TT says... can you post a simple model for us to consider...
                                    This should work... 😕

                                    TIG

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                                      NickMalvern
                                      last edited by

                                      I've made some progress!
                                      Just re-installed SU8 only adding the OSC plugin (left off the Fredo and Eng toolbox ones I had used). That made no difference!
                                      I have a simple test file with two objects - the standard box and cylinder.
                                      I had turned each into a 'component' - perhaps that was my mistake?

                                      I have just made each object a 'group' and 'Eureka' - it now seems to work.

                                      Perhaps as a new user I have just made a stupid error, should it work with 'components'?

                                      I'll have to try some more - but thought it worth noting my modest little 'success'!

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                                      • TIGT Offline
                                        TIG Moderator
                                        last edited by

                                        @nickmalvern said:

                                        I've made some progress!
                                        Just re-installed SU8 only adding the OSC plugin (left off the Fredo and Eng toolbox ones I had used). That made no difference!
                                        I have a simple test file with two objects - the standard box and cylinder.
                                        I had turned each into a 'component' - perhaps that was my mistake?

                                        I have just made each object a 'group' and 'Eureka' - it now seems to work.

                                        Perhaps as a new user I have just made a stupid error, should it work with 'components'?

                                        I'll have to try some more - but thought it worth noting my modest little 'success'!
                                        The very first line of the download page says:
                                        This ruby tool can do intersect, union, cut, trim and split [highlight=#ffffbf:3es95ez8with groups only[/highlight:3es95ez8].] 😮

                                        TIG

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                                          NickMalvern
                                          last edited by

                                          Sorry!
                                          Of course you are quite correct, and I can only apologise for what was indeed a stupid error.
                                          In my defence, I was having terrible trouble yesterday getting the page to load properly - and to find the downlad file at all - so I missed the obvious!
                                          I still haven't got any of the 'help' videos on OSC to play at a resolution that enables me to actually read anything on the screen - so I was battling with a whole host of 'unknowns' (to me!) at once.
                                          Now I'm trying to get my head round 'intersect' - as that may actually do what I was trying to achive. We'll see.
                                          As I only started on SU 2 days ago, perhaps you can forgive some initial confusion.

                                          Thanks very much for 'being there' and willing to help - even if.....

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                                            NickMalvern
                                            last edited by

                                            P.S. I mean the various UTube videos - not the basic ones on the download page

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