SU8 - WISHLIST
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Best way to describe is with this video.
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Thanks Solo, i7, even with its entry level chip seems to be the way to go.
When you think about it, what we really mean when we say that we need multi core support for SU is that in its current environment, SU is too slow. From what you described, throwing hardware at the problem may resolve some user's issues for now.
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This is getting to a point that starts to be kind of funny seeing the "world upside down"...
Now, it's not the software that evolves to take full advantadge of new hardware but instead it's the hardware that evolves to make a "better" use of old software...and the worst part is we start considering this normal, like it's the hardware manufacters fault and not the sketchup developers.
Love can really make us blind...the question now is: for how long?
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I read somewhere that a very famous TaiChi teacher once said (quite a while ago) that America got to the moon before China because it was on the side of the world closest to the moon:-) If it has to be someones fault, how about the user? If you want to ship international goods, I would not recommend a row boat. You sure its love, that its not because we are cheap?-)
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Its perfectly reasonable to have hardware that handles single threaded applications well. It is not possible to multi-thread a lot of applications.
The fact that SU is in the single threaded list is a different matter.
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honolulu wrote
@unknownuser said:You sure its love, that its not because we are cheap?-)
No I don't think its because most of us are cheap. The low cost/no cost of SU is not the only reason people use it. I think most of us would agree that it is a very pragmatic way to model. The same can't be said about other apps whether they are cheap (blender) or expensive (3ds max).
As for Google making money out of SU, I really don't think it is an issue, if they wanted they could throw major resources at it, but it probably isn't a priority. Even if they charged more for the Pro version and stuck in all the ads that have been discussed, I imagine SU could never achieve a significant bank balance in Google terms. After all, Google isn't a 3d software house, we must be so low down the agenda for them. I imagine we are like those nice but small time clients that you can only make a small profit with. While your doing their work, you can't help but think you should be focusing on your main projects.This isn't a criticism of Google, just a suggestion of how they might see it. But until SU has functionality that matches other 3d software, I can't see how it could ever be profitable. Sooner or later another simple, free or affordable modeller will come along. As for the future of SU, I wish Google would consider open-sourcing SU. Google could license SU under the GPL license, this would mean there would always be a free core product but developers would be able to develop high end versions and sell them. Google wouldn't profit directly but presumably one obvious area that SU would develop would be in web functionality so ultimately Google would profit somewhere along the line.
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**I like to add this to the Sketchup 8 wishlist:
I like for the follow Me tool to even work with 2 line that cross each other.**
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@solo said:
Dunno if this helps, but maybe you can set your rig to work this way or maybe check your GPU settings.
I could not get that method to work with adequate results. While it does seem to speed everything up overall it also makes the program unstable for some reason. I will keep at the problem but I am starting to think that sketchup just will no work properly with my system. I also have no expectations that google will actually implement multi core support or 64 bit support anytime soon.
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Along with "me too" for everyone else's suggestions, I'd like to see the ability to arrange and rename plugins and tools in the drop down menus. While SU is a good program, it's the community generated plugins that really push it over the top and make it great. I'm sure many of us have downloaded scads of them, it'd be nice to be able to put all the render engines together, line tools together, import/export tools, etc... You get the idea.
The ability to have an cutomizable menu like Maya's space bar menu or Blender's right click menu would be nice.
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Escape, that would indeed be very cool.
perhaps a facility for downloading plugins from within SU, as well.
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@remus said:
perhaps a facility for downloading plugins from within SU, as well.
You mean like an (iPhone-ish) AppStore? I don't imagine the technical aspects would too hard but the management involved to make it a trustable source of quality plugins might be a problem.
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I figure the cost of server upkeep and bandwidth would be a prohibitive issue. Any costs generated by that would be passed on to the users somehow if Google didn't eat the cost themselves.
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@tim said:
You mean like an (iPhone-ish) AppStore? I don't imagine the technical aspects would too hard but the management involved to make it a trustable source of quality plugins might be a problem.
that would be absolutely awesome! along with an automatic update detection. but it would be very difficult indeed to keep it clean and tidy. you definitely needed sections to sort them.
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i think it would be better to do it by working with the owners of the big plugin repositories. No point collecting up all the ruby scripts on to a separate sever when they already exist elsewhere.
I imagine a little 'download plugins at your own risk- they could harm SU/your computer' thing would be adequate enough warning. perhaps a little 'verified by google' logo or something to let people know which sites are trusted (not necessarily to provide working plugins, just that they dont provide malicious plugins.)
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I like the thumnail of the backdrop fixed. I noticed that when I uploaded a model with a watermark backdrop of a sky in the background to the 3D Warehouse, I can see the snapshot of the model, but not the watermark. It's all white out. Also when I save it, the thumnail snapshot of the watermark backdrop is not showing in the preview pane.
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I would like to see HDRI environment maps implemented - visible as model background. at the moment you can only import a watermark as a background image. but that is stationary and rotating the view doesn't affect it. an environment map would be really cool!
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Seconded, environment maps would be very cool.
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@remus said:
Seconded, environment maps would be very cool.
Cool, same here. I like the idea - especially a stary lit sky in the back ground for example.
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I have another feature I like to add to the Sketchup 8-free wishlist:
~The Ability, to import GIF animated images to the models "For example:
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I think there is some licensing problem with GIF's. Video files can be embedded however as I've seen Tavi's (TBD's) post a good while ago (search in the Ruby forum).
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