[Plugin][$] Tools On Surface - v2.6a - 01 Apr 24
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fredo, I am simply blown away by your tools. they work so smooth (much smoother than before that is). really great! thank you so much. SketchUp is raised to another level!!!
CadFather, thanks for the icons. I really like them, very elegant.
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Actually the offset tool is so much more superior to the native one (due to its correction features) that I love it!
One thing to improve maybe (and for me to really remove the "Draw" toolbar of native SU): could the line tool - after creating a closed loop of edges - form a face in 2D as well? I mean without drawing on an already existing face/surface?
BTW - I now have a totally new row of toolbars (almost) exclusively occupied by the "Fredo Tools"!
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Fredo,
Thanks again!.
I am, however having trouble with that popup at start.
After you mentioned the bug I deleted any older TOS files and re-installed and unzipped the latest folder.
On my XP machine all is fine, except that I still get the popup on opening the session.
On my Vista laptop when I do the same, the TOS tool bar has vanished in SU [and is not visible either in the Plugin Folder after unzipping]....but is able to be accessed via the 'Tools' drop down menu....still with the popup at the start.Stu
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@gaieus said:
One thing to improve maybe (and for me to really remove the "Draw" toolbar of native SU): could the line tool - after creating a closed loop of edges - form a face in 2D as well? I mean without drawing on an already existing face/surface?
Don't do that too quickly! There still a huge gap with the native Sketchup tools:
- Creation of faces when lines are drawn: I am working on it, but it is rather tricky
- Moving and deforming faces when doing an offset. My offset tool does not do that
- In order to keep track of edges 'on surface' for later contour edition, i assign them a small attribute string (about 10-15 characters). If your entire model is made out of lines and shapes on Surface, you will increase the file size. I plan to have a small tool to perform a clean up
- The tools are primarily designed to work on a surface. I just tried to make them behave 'honestly' when there is no surface, but this is just a side effect. By the way, I still have a lot of issues to resolve when lines or shapes are drawn on a mix of surface and non-surface.
Clearly Google could do a much better work, because it would be compiled code, and taking benefit of all the internal geometry representation they have, which is incompletely exposed via the Ruby API.
I'm glad anyway that you find the scripts useful and I apprecaite your feedback.
Fredo
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@stu said:
Fredo,
Thanks again!.
I am, however having trouble with that popup at start.
After you mentioned the bug I deleted any older TOS files and re-installed and unzipped the latest folder.
On my XP machine all is fine, except that I still get the popup on opening the session.
On my Vista laptop when I do the same, the TOS tool bar has vanished in SU [and is not visible either in the Plugin Folder after unzipping]....but is able to be accessed via the 'Tools' drop down menu....still with the popup at the start.Stu
Stu,
The message warning should be fixed in the version currently attached to the main message of this thread. If it appears, it should be because you still have the old files "xxxOnSurface.rb" in your Pligins folder.
For the toolbar, did you check if the scripts are nebaled in the Windows>Preferences>Extension menu (as the tools now install as a Sketchup extension)?
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Dear Fredo6,
I am unable to use the option 'Done' when using the line tool. I am assuming that 'Done' terminates line drawing, but then again, perhaps I should read the help file before writing this message. I have to use Escape to stop line drawing. Have I overlooked something?
A useful addition would be the ability to select the line-type option when using the pie tool (plain or construction).
The tools are brilliant. Thanks!
Regards,
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@watkins said:
I am unable to use the option 'Done' when using the line tool. I am assuming that 'Done' terminates line drawing, but then again, perhaps I should read the help file before writing this message. I have to use Escape to stop line drawing. Have I overlooked something?
Line on Surface is like its native cousin. The tool remains active until you change to another tool or back to selection. I provide chaining of segments, as does Skecthup (but if you draw with the Click-Drag-Release mode, there is no chaining). The "Done" menu is just to terminate the current line, and of course, start a new one, not to exit the tool. Escape does not exit either, but just allow choosing another origin (again like in native Sketchup). So just use Space or a short cut for other tools to exit the LineOnSurface tool.
@watkins said:
A useful addition would be the ability to select the line-type option when using the pie tool (plain or construction)
Just hit F2 or Ctrl Alone and you'll toggle between plain lines and construction lines. This method works for all tools, including Offset.
Hope this helps
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I had the same problem of watkins. I think that the problem is because the contruction lines is working only for curved faces. If you want the construction lines of the tools on a planar face it dosen´t work.
I attach a image to try to explain these. In the two faces I try to put tools with construction lines.Daniel S
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goooodness me Fredo.. how many cursors in this plugin!
(could they impact on loading speed?)anyway, at 1am - with divorce proceedings well under way - i have finished icons and cursor - both for small and large toolbar (16, 24) [plus an extra set] - again just place them in your "...\Plugins\TOS_Dir_13" folder, overwriting all files".
@Plot-Paris, thanks, glad they can be of use
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Fredo, I'm with Coen,
I got this so I can offset the edges of a curved surface onto the surface... but the LINE TOOL ON CURVED SURFACE?! well... that just made my day
This is obviously a labor of love you have created.
Thanks to you, the Joint Push Pull, the Soap Skin Bubble, Free Form Deformation, and the Subdivide and Smooth tools I am officially at a creative loss... I mean... I'm sitting here saying "now I can draw ANYTHING I WANT!" and just like when I got Z-brush's demo... had no idea WHAT I WANT to create.
Thanks so much for your work, and generosity!
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Dear Fredo,
Thank you for the explanation. I use Sketchup for mechanical design and so I almost always draw on flat surfaces, hence my interest in using your tools for both plain and construction lines.
Kind regards,
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@watkins said:
Dear Fredo,
Thank you for the explanation. I use Sketchup for mechanical design and so I almost always draw on flat surfaces, hence my interest in using your tools for both plain and construction lines.
Kind regards,
BobBob (and Daniel)
That's simply a bug, thanks for signaling (actually the script was generating a face for the shape, even in construction line).
This is fixed and I updated the Zip file in the main message of this thread.Fredo
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@unknownuser said:
It has already been said by Gaieus, the Freehand On Surface tool does not close the path. You think you can fix this? Or am I missing an option?
Freehand does not close automatically and does not have inference on by default, but if you keep Shift depressedwhen approaching a remarkable point, the inference is activated (on existing point, and on points of the curve drawn).
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@cadfather said:
goooodness me Fredo.. how many cursors in this plugin!
(could they impact on loading speed?)anyway, at 1am - with divorce proceedings well under way - i have finished icons and cursor - both for small and large toolbar (16, 24) [plus an extra set] - again just place them in your "...\Plugins\TOS_Dir_13" folder, overwriting all files".
@Plot-Paris, thanks, glad they can be of use
CadFather,
The cursors are very good and well designed. Nice work
For the icons, could you make them a little 'bigger', meaning using more of the surface of the toolbar button. On my small-screen computer (15'), it is hard to distinguish the shapes and visually see the differences between buttons.Thanks a lot. I promise not to touch the naming convention for these icons and cursors in future versions (but I may have to add new ones !).
Fredo
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@unknownuser said:
I promise not to touch the naming convention for these icons and cursors in future versions (but I may have to add new ones !)
something like a "Scale on surface"? -
@unknownuser said:
For the icons, could you make them a little 'bigger', meaning using more of the surface of the toolbar button. On my small-screen computer (15'), it is hard to distinguish the shapes and visually see the differences between buttons.
Thanks a lot. I promise not to touch the naming convention for these icons and cursors in future versions (but I may have to add new ones !).
Fredo
Fredo, i made these yesterday too but didn't post them as they need more work to get the lines bolder. 24 pixels only - i'm planing, more work on them.
also i personally wouldn't mind having an .exe installer (it would take care of previous installs and minimize probs (just an idea)
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Fredo, many thanks again fot this update.
erikB -
Fredo, thanks for the update and improvements.
CadFather, thanks for the red flat 24 icons, I prefer them.
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i like it!
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i upated my icons for TOS - not the best but thought i shared them - basically just place them inside the TOS icons folder overwriting the existing one (you have the originals anyway)
i hope to work more on the cursors and on the small ones as they are not too clear
EDIT: MORE ICONS IN THE POSTS BELOW..
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