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      Fletch
      last edited by

      good tip, Dave ❗ πŸ˜„
      however, it did solve the problem.
      I think the answer is that the Fredo collection must all be placed in the same folder, not split up among the two folders.
      I'll modify my post above to match your suggestion.

      Fletch
      Twilight Render Cross-platform Plugin for SketchUp on PC or Mac

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        Fletch
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        @rmsnmz said:

        @dave r said:

        Unfortunately you failed to answer my question about how you are attempting to install it. Please tell us HOW you are installing them. And give us the exact text of the error message you are getting. Help us help you.

        Trying to install through the sketchucation extension store 3.0... See the warning popup... Each time I try to install the extension this error message pops up. I tried installing through using the *.rbz file as well (with the skecthucation archive installer) but the same result. This same error message pops up when i try to install Fredo's Visu hole, toposhaper and animator extensions as well. Any more information?

        I got this same error message. (Win10/SU2017)

        The problem was solved after I opened (using Windows File Explorer) both possible installation locations for SketchUp plugins and manually deleted all files/folders with the name "fredo". C:/Users/Username/AppData/Roaming/SketchUp/SketchUp2017/SketchUp/Plugins (Place ALL FREDO TOOLS/plugins/extesions IN THIS FOLDER LOCATION!)
        C:/ProgramData/SketchUp/SketchUp2017/SketchUp/Plugins (PLACE NO FREDO Plugins/extensions/tools HERE!)

        Then, using the SketchUcation Extension store 3.0.8 tool I re-installed all of fredo's plugins ONE-AT-A-TIME, carefully starting with "LibFredo6" and being sure to restart Sketchup after installing each and every plugin to make sure they were installing without errors.

        The other thing I was careful to do is to choose the same plugin folder every time (C:/Users/Username/AppData...). I think what happened to get the error the first time is that I somehow chose the wrong plugin installation location for Libfredo6.

        Fletch
        Twilight Render Cross-platform Plugin for SketchUp on PC or Mac

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          ecs05norway
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          Don't know what I'm doing wrong here.

          This plugin is a great idea. If I could get it to work properly I'd love it.

          But so far I'm just getting more frustrated.

          It loads properly. No errors. I can draw whatever I like on curved surfaces with it without any problems.

          But I can't get Sketchup to recognize the faces thus drawn as being separate from the surface they were drawn on. It continues to treat the thing as one whole face.

          I'm on SU2017Make with LibFredo 7.5 on Windows 10, if it matters.

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            Dave R
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            @ecs05norway said:

            Don't know what I'm doing wrong here.

            But I can't get Sketchup to recognize the faces thus drawn as being separate from the surface they were drawn on. It continues to treat the thing as one whole face.

            You still need to make the surface on which you are drawing a group or component first. It's the same as if you were using the native tools to draw on a surface.

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              ecs05norway
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              @dave r said:

              @ecs05norway said:

              Don't know what I'm doing wrong here.

              But I can't get Sketchup to recognize the faces thus drawn as being separate from the surface they were drawn on. It continues to treat the thing as one whole face.

              You still need to make the surface on which you are drawing a group or component first. It's the same as if you were using the native tools to draw on a surface.

              I'm sorry, Dave, but that makes no sense to me at all. If I make the target surface a Group it doesn't change the behavior at all.

              One thing I did figure out is that I had the option to make the output a group turned on, which is why it wasn't integrating with the surface properly. If I turn that off, however, it seems to behave badly with the geometry of the surface and I get random triangles disappearing on the edges. It does, however, at least recognize the surface enclosed by the drawn object as separate from the outside.

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                applemango85
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                Hi

                Does anyone know how to get the arc tool to work - when I do get it drawing something I only get a dashed/broken line which I can only select little pieces

                thanks

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                  pilou
                  last edited by

                  Click Start - Click End
                  & Move! πŸ˜‰

                  GIF_arctool.gif

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                    jgb
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                    Pilou

                    That answer is NOT good enough. I get the very same problem 4 times out of 5 to the point I have stopped using that arc tool. IT DOES NOT WORK properly.

                    I have tried all sorts of variations, on a grouped surface, on a component surface, on a surface that was selected, on a surface with lines shown, lines not shown, endpoint to endpoint. Same result every time. Twisted lines in space, very few on the surface and otherwise useless.

                    When it works, it works wonders. When it doesn't it takes me about a 1/2 hour to create a curve the old fashioned way with intersecting extrusions.

                    I have complained about this several times in the past, nothing changed.

                    Please fix it!


                    jgb

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                      pilou
                      last edited by

                      Maybe try to subdivide surface before if that works not as you want!

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                        jgb
                        last edited by

                        I've tried to select only faces that I know will contain the curve. That did not work either.


                        jgb

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                          pilou
                          last edited by

                          Have you an Skp file example?

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                            applemango85
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                            Sorry I'm still having no joy with the arc

                            I've been using the ellipse tool instead. But even that is hit and miss. The tools don't always draw on the surface and draw weirdly on the x or y axis instead. I seem to get success when a purple dots show up but more often then not it's the red star for the intersection.

                            I'd love to sing the praises of this plugin because it's a great concept but I need help to get it working properly

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                              Dave R
                              last edited by

                              Upload an example SKP file with a surface on which you can't draw a curve. Give us something to work with. Maybe we can help.

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                                applemango85
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                                sorry just done it now

                                Ive been using a separate group with lines as a guide.

                                Ive been using the ellipse tool instead of the arc as the arc tool will not draw a solid line.

                                the plan is once the 4th ellipse is drawn to delete the above area then delete the Bottom of the ellipse lines (first time I did this I did a few of the measurements wrong so I know it works I just need to do it again)

                                thank you all in advance


                                tools on surface.skp

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                                  Dave R
                                  last edited by

                                  The group you created as a guide is getting in the way of letting the tool work properly.

                                  I copied the top edge of the cylinder down to give me a base line for the arcs and set a few guidelines to locate the ends of the arcs. The Arc on Surface tool works just fine.
                                  Click to animate

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                                    applemango85
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                                    think that my guides were drawn wrong so I redraw I but now I have the problem that the ellipses round is made up of many little lines not the one line which is a tad of a problem when trying to use jointpushpull on the cylinder surface

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                                      applemango85
                                      last edited by

                                      thank you dave - ill see if that works now

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                                        Dave R
                                        last edited by

                                        It's hard to tell what you have going on now without seeing the file.

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                                          applemango85
                                          last edited by

                                          well I'm getting a solid line but my arc isn't happening - its either a mess or something like the attachment


                                          tools on surface.pdf

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                                            applemango85
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                                            oh my goodness, I think I got it to work - I deleted a few of the guidelines and zoomed out - not the prettiest looking object but it does the job

                                            thank you for sparing the time to help

                                            the key seems to be to note where the blue/purple dots appear and keep guides to a minimum


                                            test 1.skp

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