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    • G Offline
      galinette
      last edited by

      Dear all,

      First, thanks for the awesome plugins.

      I'm trying to use Tools on Surface without success. I installed the latest 1.8a with the LibFredo6 4.6, but I have no toolbar, no menu, and nothing under preferences/extensions

      I could install Joint Push Pull without any issue and it worked well.

      Here is my plugins folder:
      tos.jpg

      Thanks for help! I have to draw a pretty complicated curved building facade with openings in it, joint push/pull with curves on surfaces should do it!

      Regards,

      Etienne

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      • TIGT Offline
        TIG Moderator
        last edited by

        Do you have FULL security permissions to the Plugins folder ?
        Check/change in context-menu; select its icon and > Properties > Security > Edit.
        You [and 'everyone else using SUp'] should have FULL permissions to read/write/change the Plugins, Components, Materials and Style folders - simply being an Admin is not sufficient.
        It might be that you have got the files in the right locations/subfolders etc BUT some of Fredo's tools need to read/write log/dat files to Plugins/subfolders etc and with even the slightest limitations on the folder's permissions can stop things working. Reinstall the files after fixing the permissions to FULL in case there are residual issues...

        What's inside the subfolder TOS_Dir_18 ?

        But assuming it's still broken! I wouldn't expect a clash with it... but try renaming skindigo.rb to skindigo.rb! [also the 'ocean.rb' ??? what's that] and then restarting SketchUp; see if TOS appears then... Sometimes 'uncommon' scripts have unexpected results on 3rd party tools...

        TIG

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        • G Offline
          galinette
          last edited by

          I moved away skindigo.rb, skindigo dir, and ocean.rb (which is a small script I made)

          I add my user full privileges to the plugins folder and subfolders

          I also checked the ruby console, no errors or warnings when the plugin loads

          tos2.jpg

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          • cottyC Offline
            cotty
            last edited by

            @tig said:

            but try renaming skindigo.rb to skindigo.rb! and restarting SketchUp; see if TOS appears then... Sometimes uncommon scripts have unexpected results on 3rd party tools...

            I don't think that Skindigo by Whaat have to do with this, I use both without any problems ...

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            • TIGT Offline
              TIG Moderator
              last edited by

              @cotty said:

              ...I don't think that Skindigo by Whaat have to do with this, I use both without any problems ...
              I agree that it's probably completely innocent, it was a last ditch attempt to see if there was some unexpected clash...

              TIG

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              • G Offline
                galinette
                last edited by

                Damned...
                Could it be incompatibility with the newer version of LibFredo (4.6)?
                By the way, I just upgraded Sketchup to 8.0.15158

                Etienne

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                • TIGT Offline
                  TIG Moderator
                  last edited by

                  No known issues with the latest Lib - indeed it fixed an issue...

                  Let's backtrack...
                  TOS is an Extension.
                  Have you treble checked that it is not listed under Preferences > Extensions
                  called 'Tools On Surface'.
                  If it is then activate it by 'ticking' it.
                  Once it's activated then you might also have to activate its toolbar from the View > Toolbars menu - called 'Tools On Surface'


                  Capture.PNG

                  TIG

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                  • G Offline
                    galinette
                    last edited by

                    Nothing like Tools on Surface in extensions. I just noticed that roundcorners is not listed as well.

                    I used RoundCorners by the past with sketchup 7, with no issues. Recently, I reinstalled to Sketchup 8, added LibFredo, JoinPushPull, RoundCorners and Tools on Surface. Only JoinPushPull is listed and works.

                    And of course I looked in the toolbars menu! I use plugins from quite a while, but this time it is a mess...

                    I will try on another computer with a fresh sketchup install just in case.

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                    • G Offline
                      galinette
                      last edited by

                      Well, I deleted all plugins, re-downloaded all, everything works...

                      Sorry for the mess

                      Etienne

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                      • TIGT Offline
                        TIG Moderator
                        last edited by

                        Weird! 😲
                        But at least it's fixed.
                        Although we don't know how exactly... 😕

                        TIG

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                        • Dave RD Offline
                          Dave R
                          last edited by

                          Perhaps the problem has to do with the order of events? I've assisted several users who have Win7 and had problems getting plugins to work. They tried installing the plugin prior to setting the admin privileges for the Plugins folder correctly. Removing the .rb file from the folder and installing it anew allowed it to work.

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                          • sicksickisckS Offline
                            sicksickisck
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                            great plugin 😍 but I need more shapes maybe shape editor [in commercial version ]

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                            • thomthomT Offline
                              thomthom
                              last edited by

                              @sicksickisck said:

                              great plugin 😍 but I need more shapes maybe shape editor [in commercial version ]

                              Drape or intersect?

                              Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                              • Dave RD Offline
                                Dave R
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                                No. Intersect isn't difficult and it is a fundamental thing to know how to use in SketchUp.

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                                • sicksickisckS Offline
                                  sicksickisck
                                  last edited by

                                  Intersect 😎 [difficult ?].

                                  edit : ...or both... I like how "tools on surface" works 😉

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                                  • M Offline
                                    metagamer
                                    last edited by

                                    I've been playing around with this tool for a day, and I really like its potential. But I'm having a really hard time getting the shapes I draw to turn into surfaces to use with the Joint Push Pull tool. For example, I extrude a simple cylinder (using built-in tools), and then draw a rect, a circle and a hexagon on the side using ToS. Sometimes it creates a face that I can use with JPP, sometimes it doesn't, and I can't figure out why. Any clues?

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                                    • Dave RD Offline
                                      Dave R
                                      last edited by

                                      JPP.png

                                      It works for me. How large is the cylinder?

                                      JPP2.png

                                      Or are you getting a result something like this?

                                      In this case the left edge of the rectangle falls on one of the natural softened edges of the cylinder. You can see that edge if you turn on Hidden Geometry under the View menu. You'll have to unsoften that edge to separate the rectangle from the rest of the surface. You can do that with the native Line tool or the Line tool in ToS and just connect the ends of the adjacent edges of the rectangle. Or you can display Hidden Geometry, select that edge and unsoften it.

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                                      • jgbJ Offline
                                        jgb
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                                        @dave r said:

                                        You'll have to unsoften that edge to separate the rectangle from the rest of the surface. You can do that with the native Line tool or the Line tool in ToS and just connect the ends of the adjacent edges of the rectangle. Or you can display Hidden Geometry, select that edge and unsoften it.

                                        Faster; easier ..... Shift+Ctrl Erase (tool) Just click on the soft "missing" line segment.


                                        jgb

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                                        • D Offline
                                          dakenyon27
                                          last edited by

                                          Hi,

                                          I can't seem to get this fantastic plugin working on sketchup 2013. Can anyone help?

                                          David.

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                                          • Dave RD Offline
                                            Dave R
                                            last edited by

                                            Sure. But we need some useful information. What do you mean you can't get it working? What happens when you start SketchUp? Do you get an error message related to the plugin?

                                            Did you install the required LibFredo6 files as spelled out in the first post in the thread? How did you install the files? Do you have Administrative privileges for the Plugins folder?

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