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    • jgbJ Offline
      jgb
      last edited by

      Fredo, anybody........

      What am I doing wrong here? ❓ ❓

      I've had this problem before, but solved it in a roundabout way. Messy but it worked. 🤢
      It used to work as I recall, then it didn't, but until now I just went on.

      I am trying to draw an arc on a curved surface. But the end segments of the arc bend away from the arc, (in a consistent manner every time) effectively destroying a nice arc.

      The black dotted precurve is OK, but the red lined curve distorts. I do keep the cursor on the surface or on a line on the surface, but nothing seems to work.

      I'm trying to form a contour for Curviloft to round out the edges of the flight deck on my airship.

      I have 2 complete screen-shots of the problem. If you want a SKP of the object, I'll post it.

      Arc on upper surface failed

      Arc on side surface failed


      jgb

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      • fredo6F Offline
        fredo6
        last edited by

        Joel,

        That's a big deficiency of Tools on Surface and in particular for Arc drawing when the arc is on fully on the surface. I am afraid I have no workaround quickly for that.

        Fredo

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        • jgbJ Offline
          jgb
          last edited by

          @unknownuser said:

          Joel,

          That's a big deficiency of Tools on Surface and in particular for Arc drawing when the arc is on fully on the surface. I am afraid I have no workaround quickly for that.

          Fredo

          Kinda makes the Arc function a little less than useful, ya think??? 😮

          Is there at least a plan to fix?


          jgb

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          • fredo6F Offline
            fredo6
            last edited by

            @jgb said:

            Is there at least a plan to fix?

            No immediate plan I am afraid!

            Maybe you can extrude the surface to prolong it and draw the arc over it.

            Possibly, send me the model so that I have a quick look.

            Fredo

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            • jgbJ Offline
              jgb
              last edited by

              @unknownuser said:

              @jgb said:

              Is there at least a plan to fix?

              No immediate plan I am afraid!

              Maybe you can extrude the surface to prolong it and draw the arc over it.

              Possibly, send me the model so that I have a quick look.

              Fredo

              Don't understand what you mean to extrude the surface to prolong it.

              Anyway, I made the curves manually and completed that portion of the model, so posting it will not be of use to you. Next time, I will save a copy of what I'm doing for you.

              Funny thing though, ARC did work on a smaller section over 2 or 3 faces. The difference in size was significant (30 ft did not work, 20 inches did work) and I believe the segment count was different for each.

              Tomorrow I will experiment with sizes & segments to see if there is a pattern. If there is, that should be a clue for you.


              jgb

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              • G Offline
                galinette
                last edited by

                Dear all,

                First, thanks for the awesome plugins.

                I'm trying to use Tools on Surface without success. I installed the latest 1.8a with the LibFredo6 4.6, but I have no toolbar, no menu, and nothing under preferences/extensions

                I could install Joint Push Pull without any issue and it worked well.

                Here is my plugins folder:
                tos.jpg

                Thanks for help! I have to draw a pretty complicated curved building facade with openings in it, joint push/pull with curves on surfaces should do it!

                Regards,

                Etienne

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                • TIGT Offline
                  TIG Moderator
                  last edited by

                  Do you have FULL security permissions to the Plugins folder ?
                  Check/change in context-menu; select its icon and > Properties > Security > Edit.
                  You [and 'everyone else using SUp'] should have FULL permissions to read/write/change the Plugins, Components, Materials and Style folders - simply being an Admin is not sufficient.
                  It might be that you have got the files in the right locations/subfolders etc BUT some of Fredo's tools need to read/write log/dat files to Plugins/subfolders etc and with even the slightest limitations on the folder's permissions can stop things working. Reinstall the files after fixing the permissions to FULL in case there are residual issues...

                  What's inside the subfolder TOS_Dir_18 ?

                  But assuming it's still broken! I wouldn't expect a clash with it... but try renaming skindigo.rb to skindigo.rb! [also the 'ocean.rb' ??? what's that] and then restarting SketchUp; see if TOS appears then... Sometimes 'uncommon' scripts have unexpected results on 3rd party tools...

                  TIG

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                  • G Offline
                    galinette
                    last edited by

                    I moved away skindigo.rb, skindigo dir, and ocean.rb (which is a small script I made)

                    I add my user full privileges to the plugins folder and subfolders

                    I also checked the ruby console, no errors or warnings when the plugin loads

                    tos2.jpg

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                    • cottyC Offline
                      cotty
                      last edited by

                      @tig said:

                      but try renaming skindigo.rb to skindigo.rb! and restarting SketchUp; see if TOS appears then... Sometimes uncommon scripts have unexpected results on 3rd party tools...

                      I don't think that Skindigo by Whaat have to do with this, I use both without any problems ...

                      my SketchUp gallery

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                      • TIGT Offline
                        TIG Moderator
                        last edited by

                        @cotty said:

                        ...I don't think that Skindigo by Whaat have to do with this, I use both without any problems ...
                        I agree that it's probably completely innocent, it was a last ditch attempt to see if there was some unexpected clash...

                        TIG

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                        • G Offline
                          galinette
                          last edited by

                          Damned...
                          Could it be incompatibility with the newer version of LibFredo (4.6)?
                          By the way, I just upgraded Sketchup to 8.0.15158

                          Etienne

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                          • TIGT Offline
                            TIG Moderator
                            last edited by

                            No known issues with the latest Lib - indeed it fixed an issue...

                            Let's backtrack...
                            TOS is an Extension.
                            Have you treble checked that it is not listed under Preferences > Extensions
                            called 'Tools On Surface'.
                            If it is then activate it by 'ticking' it.
                            Once it's activated then you might also have to activate its toolbar from the View > Toolbars menu - called 'Tools On Surface'


                            Capture.PNG

                            TIG

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                            • G Offline
                              galinette
                              last edited by

                              Nothing like Tools on Surface in extensions. I just noticed that roundcorners is not listed as well.

                              I used RoundCorners by the past with sketchup 7, with no issues. Recently, I reinstalled to Sketchup 8, added LibFredo, JoinPushPull, RoundCorners and Tools on Surface. Only JoinPushPull is listed and works.

                              And of course I looked in the toolbars menu! I use plugins from quite a while, but this time it is a mess...

                              I will try on another computer with a fresh sketchup install just in case.

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                              • G Offline
                                galinette
                                last edited by

                                Well, I deleted all plugins, re-downloaded all, everything works...

                                Sorry for the mess

                                Etienne

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                                • TIGT Offline
                                  TIG Moderator
                                  last edited by

                                  Weird! 😲
                                  But at least it's fixed.
                                  Although we don't know how exactly... 😕

                                  TIG

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                                  • Dave RD Offline
                                    Dave R
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                                    Perhaps the problem has to do with the order of events? I've assisted several users who have Win7 and had problems getting plugins to work. They tried installing the plugin prior to setting the admin privileges for the Plugins folder correctly. Removing the .rb file from the folder and installing it anew allowed it to work.

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                                    • sicksickisckS Offline
                                      sicksickisck
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                                      great plugin 😍 but I need more shapes maybe shape editor [in commercial version ]

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                                      • thomthomT Offline
                                        thomthom
                                        last edited by

                                        @sicksickisck said:

                                        great plugin 😍 but I need more shapes maybe shape editor [in commercial version ]

                                        Drape or intersect?

                                        Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                        List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                        • Dave RD Offline
                                          Dave R
                                          last edited by

                                          No. Intersect isn't difficult and it is a fundamental thing to know how to use in SketchUp.

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                                          • sicksickisckS Offline
                                            sicksickisck
                                            last edited by

                                            Intersect 😎 [difficult ?].

                                            edit : ...or both... I like how "tools on surface" works 😉

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