Print to scale - but not using Standard views

Gaieus · 26 Feb 2008, 13:51

And Lewis, can you also print to scale using it? I have tried but no avail (if it is out of the original global axis alignment). Otherwise I could just simply align to the face itself.

Wo3Dan · 26 Feb 2008, 13:56

Gaieus,

I have no clue why the word 'Top'is not in the top/left corner.
Maybe that has to do with not being able to print to scale.
See if you can with the last 4 scenes in this attached file?

Lewis, You may be right and I could be overlooking something.
But can you even get it to see the horizon not horizontal on screen?
That is what I was referring to. Sometimes necessary.

Wo3Dan

Aligned for 2D.skp

thomthom · 26 Feb 2008, 14:13

With the section cut method I can print from any odd angle in scale.

With the other method I can only manage to print top and side view, but not front view. This is because it only seem to work if you have the red and green axis end at the same point. In order to face the front view I need to make the green axis end up at a different point, but then Align View doesn't result in a Top view.

"How many SketchUp monkeys does it take to print to scale? (Insert punchline here)"

Gaieus · 26 Feb 2008, 14:18

I DO have the TOP worrd on screen where necessary.

Hey wait a minute, on my office machine I have SU 6.0.1099 (free) while you guys have a newer version. I1ll check this at home where I have the latest (pro) version.

This is what I get:

Damn... nice find though - I think I should somehow put it into the SU Bugs. What do you think?

Bruce, I couldn't get the print to scale options with the section cut method. Maybe this is also version dependent?

thomthom · 26 Feb 2008, 14:26

I think it'd be great if the SU team would look at this issue. Some response from them would be great.

Wo3Dan · 26 Feb 2008, 14:29

When orbiting in 'Parallel Projection' mode I now notice that even these 'Front, Left, Right etc' words are (within a small tolerance in viewpoint) in a way 'connected' to the original unrotated axes, even when axes are rotated. Like other tools are: Paint bucket applying paint straight from the material browser, creating components etc.
So if print to scale is only possible when these words appear on screen then this is a major drawback with buildings oriented other than north/south. I assumed that print to scale only had to do with being in 'Parallel Projection' mode.

(Good thing I said in first post: try with one first.)

If so this is one for the 'Wish list'

Wo3Dan

Wo3Dan · 26 Feb 2008, 14:47

@thomthom said:

With the section cut method I can print from any odd angle in scale.

Unfortunately no luck for me yet.

@thomthom said:

"How many SketchUp monkeys does it take to print to scale? (Insert punchline here)"

Four, I guess. One with tape measure, one with calculator and one spraying the ink.... And one supervisor!

lewiswadsworth · 26 Feb 2008, 14:58

You would think, that since this has been a problem for at least three SketchUp releases to my knowledge that it would have been dealt with...I'm sure I answered this question for SketchUp 5 on the old @last/Google SketchUp Forums at least once with the same workaround.

It's another one of those reasons that I've been using, when I can, other pieces of software that seem to be subject to more timely updates and fixes.

Anssi · 26 Feb 2008, 16:43

This is something that has been puzzling me all the time I have used SU.

I just do not understand why Print and Export 2D image have to be so totally different in approach. Exporting vectors to DWG/DXF and PDF/EPS can be done to full scale from every parallel view. Of course only elements parallel to the view plane will be to scale, others are foreshortened. The PDF/EPS size is limited. Activating the Scale option for this shouldn't be too difficult.

Also, there is no straightforward way of making an accurately rotated Plan view, as the standard views do not follow modified axis directions.

The customary workaround is to make your buildings in separate files using the standard axis directions, and printing the plans from them, and then using the terrain model only for the assembly, with the buildings as components.

Anssi

thomthom · 27 Feb 2008, 08:04

..and to think that when I posted this question originally I thought it was just me being silly and that I'd get an easy answer that's make me slap my head and say "duh!"...