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    • GaieusG Offline
      Gaieus
      last edited by

      Ahha. Tricky, now I cannot do that either (only top view seems to work). Hm... Let me try...

      Gai...

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      • Wo3DanW Offline
        Wo3Dan
        last edited by

        Thomthom,

        see attached file.
        remember that red is left to right and green is to top unless you need a different orientation for the print. (That's the drawback with the section plane methode)

        Wo3Dan


        align A and B in frontview.skp

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        • R Offline
          rsw
          last edited by

          I can get the section plane method to work aswell, but I still can't get the other method to.

          I have downloaded your file Wo3Dan but the 'B=frontview' scene still cannot be printed to scale (the options are greyed out)?

          Richard

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          • GaieusG Offline
            Gaieus
            last edited by

            Yes Wodan, I got to this point too but now you are not in any of the standard views and therefore cannot print to scale.
            When you do this from a top view, you are still able to print to scale - and Tom would like to do that.

            Gai...

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            • L Offline
              lewiswadsworth
              last edited by

              Just to see if I could make "the section plane method" fail (this is a trick I've been using since SU4), I've rotated the section plane in my method and put it at odd angles to everything else in the model. I can't make it NOT work, except by switching back to perspective.

              col sporcar si trova

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              • GaieusG Offline
                Gaieus
                last edited by

                And Lewis, can you also print to scale using it? I have tried but no avail (if it is out of the original global axis alignment). Otherwise I could just simply align to the face itself.

                Gai...

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                • Wo3DanW Offline
                  Wo3Dan
                  last edited by

                  Gaieus,

                  I have no clue why the word 'Top'is not in the top/left corner.
                  Maybe that has to do with not being able to print to scale.
                  See if you can with the last 4 scenes in this attached file?

                  Lewis, You may be right and I could be overlooking something.
                  But can you even get it to see the horizon not horizontal on screen?
                  That is what I was referring to. Sometimes necessary.

                  Wo3Dan


                  Aligned for 2D.skp

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                  • thomthomT Offline
                    thomthom
                    last edited by

                    With the section cut method I can print from any odd angle in scale.

                    With the other method I can only manage to print top and side view, but not front view. This is because it only seem to work if you have the red and green axis end at the same point. In order to face the front view I need to make the green axis end up at a different point, but then Align View doesn't result in a Top view.

                    "How many SketchUp monkeys does it take to print to scale? (Insert punchline here)"

                    Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                    List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                    • GaieusG Offline
                      Gaieus
                      last edited by

                      I DO have the TOP worrd on screen where necessary.

                      Hey wait a minute, on my office machine I have SU 6.0.1099 (free) while you guys have a newer version. I1ll check this at home where I have the latest (pro) version.

                      This is what I get:

                      ScreenShot.png

                      Damn... nice find though - I think I should somehow put it into the SU Bugs. What do you think?


                      Bruce, I couldn't get the print to scale options with the section cut method. Maybe this is also version dependent? 😲

                      Gai...

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                      • thomthomT Offline
                        thomthom
                        last edited by

                        I think it'd be great if the SU team would look at this issue. Some response from them would be great.

                        Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                        List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                        • Wo3DanW Offline
                          Wo3Dan
                          last edited by

                          When orbiting in 'Parallel Projection' mode I now notice that even these 'Front, Left, Right etc' words are (within a small tolerance in viewpoint) in a way 'connected' to the original unrotated axes, even when axes are rotated. Like other tools are: Paint bucket applying paint straight from the material browser, creating components etc.
                          So if print to scale is only possible when these words appear on screen then this is a major drawback with buildings oriented other than north/south. I assumed that print to scale only had to do with being in 'Parallel Projection' mode.

                          (Good thing I said in first post: try with one first.)

                          If so this is one for the 'Wish list'

                          Wo3Dan

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                          • Wo3DanW Offline
                            Wo3Dan
                            last edited by

                            @thomthom said:

                            With the section cut method I can print from any odd angle in scale.

                            Unfortunately no luck for me yet.

                            @thomthom said:

                            "How many SketchUp monkeys does it take to print to scale? (Insert punchline here)"

                            Four, I guess. One with tape measure, one with calculator and one spraying the ink.... And one supervisor!

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                            • L Offline
                              lewiswadsworth
                              last edited by

                              You would think, that since this has been a problem for at least three SketchUp releases to my knowledge that it would have been dealt with...I'm sure I answered this question for SketchUp 5 on the old @last/Google SketchUp Forums at least once with the same workaround.

                              It's another one of those reasons that I've been using, when I can, other pieces of software that seem to be subject to more timely updates and fixes.

                              col sporcar si trova

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                              • AnssiA Offline
                                Anssi
                                last edited by

                                This is something that has been puzzling me all the time I have used SU.

                                I just do not understand why Print and Export 2D image have to be so totally different in approach. Exporting vectors to DWG/DXF and PDF/EPS can be done to full scale from every parallel view. Of course only elements parallel to the view plane will be to scale, others are foreshortened. The PDF/EPS size is limited. Activating the Scale option for this shouldn't be too difficult.

                                Also, there is no straightforward way of making an accurately rotated Plan view, as the standard views do not follow modified axis directions.

                                The customary workaround is to make your buildings in separate files using the standard axis directions, and printing the plans from them, and then using the terrain model only for the assembly, with the buildings as components.

                                Anssi

                                securi adversus homines, securi adversus deos rem difficillimam adsecuti sunt, ut illis ne voto quidem opus esset

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                                • thomthomT Offline
                                  thomthom
                                  last edited by

                                  ..and to think that when I posted this question originally I thought it was just me being silly and that I'd get an easy answer that's make me slap my head and say "duh!"... 😒

                                  Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                  List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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