sketchucation logo sketchucation
    • Login
    ℹ️ Licensed Extensions | FredoBatch, ElevationProfile, FredoSketch, LayOps, MatSim and Pic2Shape will require license from Sept 1st More Info

    Joint Push Pull Classic (Old version) - v2.2a - 26 Apr 17

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Plugins
    368 Posts 150 Posters 2.0m Views 150 Watching
    Loading More Posts
    • Oldest to Newest
    • Newest to Oldest
    • Most Votes
    Reply
    • Reply as topic
    Log in to reply
    This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
    • Dave RD Offline
      Dave R
      last edited by

      Joint Push/Pull is working normally. It just pushes all the faces in the direction of their normals which will leave those faces.

      For something like your example I would either draw a curved face where you want the new surface to be, intersect it with the existing geometry and then erase what I don't want or I would draw a 3D shape and use the Solid tools to subtract the stuff I don't want.

      Etaoin Shrdlu

      %

      (THERE'S NO PLACE LIKE)

      G28 X0.0 Y0.0 Z0.0

      M30

      %

      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
      • john2J Offline
        john2
        last edited by

        @dave r said:

        Joint Push/Pull is working normally. It just pushes all the faces in the direction of their normals which will leave those faces.

        For something like your example I would either draw a curved face where you want the new surface to be, intersect it with the existing geometry and then erase what I don't want or I would draw a 3D shape and use the Solid tools to subtract the stuff I don't want.

        solid tools and booltools often don't work since we have little hole in our geometry. so they don't get qualified as a solid. 😒 Intersecting faces is an untidy and a bit long way. 😞

        Sketchup Make 2017 (64-bit), Vray 4.0 , Windows 10 – 64 bit, corei7-8750H, 16GB RAM, Nvidia GeForce GTX 1050Ti 4GB

        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
        • Dave RD Offline
          Dave R
          last edited by

          Sloppy work results in harder work. Don't work harder than you need to.

          Etaoin Shrdlu

          %

          (THERE'S NO PLACE LIKE)

          G28 X0.0 Y0.0 Z0.0

          M30

          %

          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
          • B Offline
            bouleaux
            last edited by

            Hello,
            I'm trying to extrude a multitude of faces with the same kind of behavior than the jointpushpull plugin. My concern is that I need as many solids than faces as a result.
            If I jointpushpull 5 adjacent faces, they will end in a single extruded group. What I would like is having 5 adjacent solids as a result.

            The ky Group PushPull 2D Faces plugin does that very well... it found out to be the best solution for me make in making that sketchyphysics video : http://youtu.be/v9jWE1aoueA

            BUT for this video the faces were all parallel. What I didn't find yet is a way to obtain the same result (multiple adjacent solids) when the faces are NOT parallel. The ky Group PushPull 2D Faces plugin actually does it, but the groups all interpenetrate, which does not end with solids, which is not ok with sketchyphysics...

            My point is I would like to extrude this wonderful head model by 3D creator (http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=d34e5f52b8698e0e72879169b6bea9fb&prevstart=0) into multiple solids, then use it in sketchyphysics (if my iMac accepts to deal with sio many entities...)

            Any idea ?
            Many thanks

            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
            • fredo6F Offline
              fredo6
              last edited by

              @bouleaux

              Did you use the options (press TAB to have the dialog box appear)

              • Keep Original Face
              • Borders on all faces

              Fred

              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
              • B Offline
                bouleaux
                last edited by

                Dear Fredo,
                Thank you for your answer, and congratulations for the great job you do with all these plugins.
                I tried what you suggest, but as a result I have one group, and I would like to have 5 different groups / solids>

                Joint is an image of what I get.

                Can you think of a way to do it ?


                JPP3.jpg

                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                • TIGT Offline
                  TIG Moderator
                  last edited by

                  Once you have made the 6 'segments' [it's not 5?], you can edit the resultant group.
                  Use Select 'by fence' so that only the edges/faces of a required 'segment' are selected and then 'group' them.
                  Any shared edges with non-selected faces are duplicated automatically.
                  Repeat until all 'segments' are groups.
                  Now edit each segment-group in turn.
                  Over-draw an edge bounding any missing faces [e.g. at junctions], these faces should then reform...
                  Tip: to see what you are doing set your View > Component-Edit to 'hide-rest-of-model'.
                  Now you should have the main [original] group containing 6 solid sub-groups.
                  If you want them 'loose' you can just Explode the original group...

                  TIG

                  1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                  • B Offline
                    bouleaux
                    last edited by

                    Hello Tig,
                    thanks for your answer.
                    The problem is I have 6500 groups on that model !
                    (http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=d34e5f52b8698e0e72879169b6bea9fb&prevstart=0)
                    I couldn't treat them individually...
                    Do you think there is an automated way to do it ?

                    On the image below, I used Ky,'s Group and Pushpull 2d faces to extrude a few faces as groups. But the groups interpenetrate, which is unsuitable for sketchyphysics (this is my guess, but I could be wrong —I discovered all these great plugins you guys make just a few days ago...)
                    I could use the SU feature Solid Tools >Trim, that would do the trick, but this tool seems to apply only on two solids, which is not enough... (again, I could be wrong on that point...)

                    On the other image I used Joint Push Pull

                    Would you have any more idea ?
                    Many thanks


                    with Joint Push Pull


                    With Ky's Group Push Pull

                    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                    • TIGT Offline
                      TIG Moderator
                      last edited by

                      Fredo could add something into his JPP code to split the mesh into individual groups ?
                      I'm still unclear as to why you want to do this ?

                      TIG

                      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                      • B Offline
                        bouleaux
                        last edited by

                        The purpose of all this is being able to "play" with such a model in sketchyphysics (collapse, explode, etc...)
                        I think (am I right ?) that it has to be separate groups in order to do so...
                        If the groups interpenetrate, the sketchyphysics contextual menu or dialog box will not unfreeze the groups. Do you think it's true ? Or am I making a problem where there is not ?
                        Thanks again for your patience

                        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                        • TIGT Offline
                          TIG Moderator
                          last edited by

                          Why not make a very simple example of say 3x3x3 cube groups and see how it does ?

                          TIG

                          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                          • B Offline
                            bundoo
                            last edited by

                            Awesome tool. Works great most of the time, but i am getting a crash attempting to JPP the surface in this attached file.


                            crash.skp

                            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                            • fredo6F Offline
                              fredo6
                              last edited by

                              @bundoo said:

                              Awesome tool. Works great most of the time, but i am getting a crash attempting to JPP the surface in this attached file.

                              Indeed, it does bug splat.
                              After a rapid check, it seems that the configuration with those holes and concave sides of faces is precisely one case that I left for future implementation.

                              I suggest you cut the big face into smaller chunk with vertical lines. Then it works.

                              Sorry for inconvenience

                              Fredo

                              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                              • E Offline
                                E21F1988
                                last edited by

                                Hi everybody!
                                I've got some problems about Joint Push Pull - v2.0b: I followed all the steps for the installation, but when I open the program a window appears and says "Error Loading File jointpushpull_main.rb undefined method `get_last_state' for nil:NilClass". 😕
                                Fredo6, what does it mean?

                                Thanks a lot! 😉

                                Ps: I have Google Sketchup 8 pro...

                                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                • T Offline
                                  timetess
                                  last edited by

                                  thank u for sharing,like it!

                                  1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                  • charly2008C Offline
                                    charly2008
                                    last edited by

                                    Hi,

                                    thanks for this wonderful plugin. I often work with it. I have now installed the latest version but I get no dialog box. What do I need to see the dialog box?

                                    Charly

                                    He who makes no mistakes, makes nothing

                                    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                    • fredo6F Offline
                                      fredo6
                                      last edited by

                                      @charly2008 said:

                                      Hi,

                                      thanks for this wonderful plugin. I often work with it. I have now installed the latest version but I get no dialog box. What do I need to see the dialog box?

                                      Charly

                                      Charly,

                                      With the visual edition, you have a preview mode and you can type the offset in the VCB. The dialog box can be invoked by pressing TAB or via the contextual menu.

                                      Fredo

                                      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                      • charly2008C Offline
                                        charly2008
                                        last edited by

                                        Hi Fredo,

                                        Thanks for the quick reply. It works.

                                        Charly

                                        He who makes no mistakes, makes nothing

                                        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                        • pilouP Offline
                                          pilou
                                          last edited by

                                          What is exactly the option "Thickening" against the normal use ?
                                          Can you put a little image before/ after

                                          Frenchy Pilou
                                          Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                          My Little site :)

                                          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                          • S Offline
                                            SUN288
                                            last edited by

                                            cool, thanks for testing fellas

                                            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                            • 1
                                            • 2
                                            • 3
                                            • 4
                                            • 5
                                            • 18
                                            • 19
                                            • 2 / 19
                                            • First post
                                              Last post
                                            Buy SketchPlus
                                            Buy SUbD
                                            Buy WrapR
                                            Buy eBook
                                            Buy Modelur
                                            Buy Vertex Tools
                                            Buy SketchCuisine
                                            Buy FormFonts

                                            Advertisement