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    Joint Push Pull Classic (Old version) - v2.2a - 26 Apr 17

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    • john2J 離線
      john2
      最後由 編輯

      im trying to push down a curved surface but can't get the desired effect , my shape get slivered on the edges. and i have to delete lots of curved faces one by one. how should i decrease the thickness of solid the way a normal flat solid would work?

      http://i.imgur.com/uhWnb.jpg


      pushpull sample.skp

      Sketchup Make 2017 (64-bit), Vray 4.0 , Windows 10 – 64 bit, corei7-8750H, 16GB RAM, Nvidia GeForce GTX 1050Ti 4GB

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      • Dave RD 離線
        Dave R
        最後由 編輯

        Joint Push/Pull is working normally. It just pushes all the faces in the direction of their normals which will leave those faces.

        For something like your example I would either draw a curved face where you want the new surface to be, intersect it with the existing geometry and then erase what I don't want or I would draw a 3D shape and use the Solid tools to subtract the stuff I don't want.

        Etaoin Shrdlu

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        • john2J 離線
          john2
          最後由 編輯

          @dave r said:

          Joint Push/Pull is working normally. It just pushes all the faces in the direction of their normals which will leave those faces.

          For something like your example I would either draw a curved face where you want the new surface to be, intersect it with the existing geometry and then erase what I don't want or I would draw a 3D shape and use the Solid tools to subtract the stuff I don't want.

          solid tools and booltools often don't work since we have little hole in our geometry. so they don't get qualified as a solid. 😒 Intersecting faces is an untidy and a bit long way. 😞

          Sketchup Make 2017 (64-bit), Vray 4.0 , Windows 10 – 64 bit, corei7-8750H, 16GB RAM, Nvidia GeForce GTX 1050Ti 4GB

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          • Dave RD 離線
            Dave R
            最後由 編輯

            Sloppy work results in harder work. Don't work harder than you need to.

            Etaoin Shrdlu

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            • B 離線
              bouleaux
              最後由 編輯

              Hello,
              I'm trying to extrude a multitude of faces with the same kind of behavior than the jointpushpull plugin. My concern is that I need as many solids than faces as a result.
              If I jointpushpull 5 adjacent faces, they will end in a single extruded group. What I would like is having 5 adjacent solids as a result.

              The ky Group PushPull 2D Faces plugin does that very well... it found out to be the best solution for me make in making that sketchyphysics video : http://youtu.be/v9jWE1aoueA

              BUT for this video the faces were all parallel. What I didn't find yet is a way to obtain the same result (multiple adjacent solids) when the faces are NOT parallel. The ky Group PushPull 2D Faces plugin actually does it, but the groups all interpenetrate, which does not end with solids, which is not ok with sketchyphysics...

              My point is I would like to extrude this wonderful head model by 3D creator (http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=d34e5f52b8698e0e72879169b6bea9fb&prevstart=0) into multiple solids, then use it in sketchyphysics (if my iMac accepts to deal with sio many entities...)

              Any idea ?
              Many thanks

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              • fredo6F 離線
                fredo6
                最後由 編輯

                @bouleaux

                Did you use the options (press TAB to have the dialog box appear)

                • Keep Original Face
                • Borders on all faces

                Fred

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                • B 離線
                  bouleaux
                  最後由 編輯

                  Dear Fredo,
                  Thank you for your answer, and congratulations for the great job you do with all these plugins.
                  I tried what you suggest, but as a result I have one group, and I would like to have 5 different groups / solids>

                  Joint is an image of what I get.

                  Can you think of a way to do it ?


                  JPP3.jpg

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                  • TIGT 離線
                    TIG Moderator
                    最後由 編輯

                    Once you have made the 6 'segments' [it's not 5?], you can edit the resultant group.
                    Use Select 'by fence' so that only the edges/faces of a required 'segment' are selected and then 'group' them.
                    Any shared edges with non-selected faces are duplicated automatically.
                    Repeat until all 'segments' are groups.
                    Now edit each segment-group in turn.
                    Over-draw an edge bounding any missing faces [e.g. at junctions], these faces should then reform...
                    Tip: to see what you are doing set your View > Component-Edit to 'hide-rest-of-model'.
                    Now you should have the main [original] group containing 6 solid sub-groups.
                    If you want them 'loose' you can just Explode the original group...

                    TIG

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                    • B 離線
                      bouleaux
                      最後由 編輯

                      Hello Tig,
                      thanks for your answer.
                      The problem is I have 6500 groups on that model !
                      (http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=d34e5f52b8698e0e72879169b6bea9fb&prevstart=0)
                      I couldn't treat them individually...
                      Do you think there is an automated way to do it ?

                      On the image below, I used Ky,'s Group and Pushpull 2d faces to extrude a few faces as groups. But the groups interpenetrate, which is unsuitable for sketchyphysics (this is my guess, but I could be wrong —I discovered all these great plugins you guys make just a few days ago...)
                      I could use the SU feature Solid Tools >Trim, that would do the trick, but this tool seems to apply only on two solids, which is not enough... (again, I could be wrong on that point...)

                      On the other image I used Joint Push Pull

                      Would you have any more idea ?
                      Many thanks


                      with Joint Push Pull


                      With Ky's Group Push Pull

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                      • TIGT 離線
                        TIG Moderator
                        最後由 編輯

                        Fredo could add something into his JPP code to split the mesh into individual groups ?
                        I'm still unclear as to why you want to do this ?

                        TIG

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                        • B 離線
                          bouleaux
                          最後由 編輯

                          The purpose of all this is being able to "play" with such a model in sketchyphysics (collapse, explode, etc...)
                          I think (am I right ?) that it has to be separate groups in order to do so...
                          If the groups interpenetrate, the sketchyphysics contextual menu or dialog box will not unfreeze the groups. Do you think it's true ? Or am I making a problem where there is not ?
                          Thanks again for your patience

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                          • TIGT 離線
                            TIG Moderator
                            最後由 編輯

                            Why not make a very simple example of say 3x3x3 cube groups and see how it does ?

                            TIG

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                            • B 離線
                              bundoo
                              最後由 編輯

                              Awesome tool. Works great most of the time, but i am getting a crash attempting to JPP the surface in this attached file.


                              crash.skp

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                              • fredo6F 離線
                                fredo6
                                最後由 編輯

                                @bundoo said:

                                Awesome tool. Works great most of the time, but i am getting a crash attempting to JPP the surface in this attached file.

                                Indeed, it does bug splat.
                                After a rapid check, it seems that the configuration with those holes and concave sides of faces is precisely one case that I left for future implementation.

                                I suggest you cut the big face into smaller chunk with vertical lines. Then it works.

                                Sorry for inconvenience

                                Fredo

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                                • E 離線
                                  E21F1988
                                  最後由 編輯

                                  Hi everybody!
                                  I've got some problems about Joint Push Pull - v2.0b: I followed all the steps for the installation, but when I open the program a window appears and says "Error Loading File jointpushpull_main.rb undefined method `get_last_state' for nil:NilClass". 😕
                                  Fredo6, what does it mean?

                                  Thanks a lot! 😉

                                  Ps: I have Google Sketchup 8 pro...

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                                  • T 離線
                                    timetess
                                    最後由 編輯

                                    thank u for sharing,like it!

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                                    • charly2008C 離線
                                      charly2008
                                      最後由 編輯

                                      Hi,

                                      thanks for this wonderful plugin. I often work with it. I have now installed the latest version but I get no dialog box. What do I need to see the dialog box?

                                      Charly

                                      He who makes no mistakes, makes nothing

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                                      • fredo6F 離線
                                        fredo6
                                        最後由 編輯

                                        @charly2008 said:

                                        Hi,

                                        thanks for this wonderful plugin. I often work with it. I have now installed the latest version but I get no dialog box. What do I need to see the dialog box?

                                        Charly

                                        Charly,

                                        With the visual edition, you have a preview mode and you can type the offset in the VCB. The dialog box can be invoked by pressing TAB or via the contextual menu.

                                        Fredo

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                                        • charly2008C 離線
                                          charly2008
                                          最後由 編輯

                                          Hi Fredo,

                                          Thanks for the quick reply. It works.

                                          Charly

                                          He who makes no mistakes, makes nothing

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                                          • pilouP 離線
                                            pilou
                                            最後由 編輯

                                            What is exactly the option "Thickening" against the normal use ?
                                            Can you put a little image before/ after

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