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    • fredo6F Offline
      fredo6
      last edited by

      @bep said:

      I have a question regarding joint push pull.
      It is illustated by the skp file.
      [attachment=0:1jxqs3h2]<!-- ia0 -->example.skp<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:1jxqs3h2]
      I hope that i am doing something wrong, or that some of my settings are wrong.
      It would be great if the desired outcome whould be possible

      greetings ,

      Bep van Malde

      Bep,

      I think you simply touch some of the limitations of JPP. I am afraid this is a pure geometrical problem.
      Try to Push pull individually the faces by 2 cm, and then see how they can be connected 'jointly'. You'll see that there is no good solution.

      Fredo

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      • M Offline
        mpowell1234567890
        last edited by

        Hi, every time I try to use joint push-pull in sketchup, it creates a bugsplat and terminates sketchup 7. Is there a way to fix it?

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        • BepB Offline
          Bep
          last edited by

          @unknownuser said:

          @bep said:

          I have a question regarding joint push pull.
          It is illustated by the skp file.
          [attachment=0:2u6jklv3]<!-- ia0 -->example.skp<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:2u6jklv3]
          I hope that i am doing something wrong, or that some of my settings are wrong.
          It would be great if the desired outcome whould be possible

          greetings ,

          Bep van Malde

          Bep,

          I think you simply touch some of the limitations of JPP. I am afraid this is a pure geometrical problem.
          Try to Push pull individually the faces by 2 cm, and then see how they can be connected 'jointly'. You'll see that there is no good solution.

          Fredo

          Thanks for answering ,its a pitty this dos not work 😢 (yet)

          Bep

          "History is written by the winners"

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          • P Offline
            pr0
            last edited by

            I know that this question doesn't concern the joint push pull plugin - however i've noticed that certain geometry can be push - pulled in a very visual and intuitive way when concerning pure geometry. Is it possible to do the same with 3d splines? Except instead of push - pulling them you would offset them? Fredo and Chris Fullmer are probably the masters concerning sketchup plugins - so i was wondering Fredo, do you think it would be possible to create? here's the link to the forum where there are visual examples. Thanks in advance.

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              dondanev
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              hvala puno ako ko razume thanx

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              • R Offline
                rv1974
                last edited by

                Hi Fredo!
                I thought about some enhacement of the single face JPP. It should respect the adjacent faces (AB and CD keep their directions while BC is moving forward (example 2)). It works in revit and I think it would be great especially in architectiral practice.
                P.S. Basicly instead of single BC face there could be any number of faces- it's all about vicinity treatment.
                Thanks in advance


                Copy of ScreenShot034.jpg

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                  JaViXP
                  last edited by

                  I have translated this plugin into Spanish, how can I change the default language?

                  "Giving up is way harder than trying"
                  JaViXP's Rendering

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                  • fredo6F Offline
                    fredo6
                    last edited by

                    @javixp said:

                    I have translated this plugin into Spanish, how can I change the default language?

                    Normally you'll get the spanish version if your Windows or Mac system is in spanish.

                    To force the language, just create a file LibTraductor.def(or edit it if it already exists), and make sure the one line code is:
                    TRADUCTOR_DEFAULT = "ES"

                    Fredo

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                    • J Offline
                      JaViXP
                      last edited by

                      It displays an error for me, could you please do it? (JPP text is below)

                      Thanks 😄


                      JPP Text.txt

                      "Giving up is way harder than trying"
                      JaViXP's Rendering

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                      • M Offline
                        magpie
                        last edited by

                        many thanks again fredo!

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                        • P Offline
                          Patrickpr
                          last edited by

                          Hy

                          What is this?

                          LibTraductor.def, an optional configuration file allowing override of language

                          i Have the german version
                          I can that not install 😢 😢 😢

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                          • fredo6F Offline
                            fredo6
                            last edited by

                            @patrickpr said:

                            Hy

                            What is this?

                            LibTraductor.def, an optional configuration file allowing override of language

                            i Have the german version
                            I can that not install 😢 😢 😢

                            Patrick,

                            Unfortunately, JointPushPull is an old script and the translation must be done in the code of the script itself (line 29 to 168 of jointpushpull.rb).
                            The convention is to add the strings in the existing lists as "|DE| the text", being careful to put a \ before any accentuated or special character (and also careful with the Ruby syntax). Usually, I do it myself, based on translation provided by contributors in text files.

                            Fredo

                            PS: I plan a refresh of JPP one of these days, based on LibFredo6. Then the translation can be done in an easier way, like in FredoScale or HoverSelect, and in much more languages.

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                              JaViXP
                              last edited by

                              That sounds cool 👍

                              I'll try to translate it into Spanish 😄

                              "Giving up is way harder than trying"
                              JaViXP's Rendering

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                              • simon le bonS Offline
                                simon le bon
                                last edited by

                                Bonjour Fredo,

                                "Please help!"
                                I don't know why, JointPushPull doesn't close the borders anymore!!"Snarrgg" - - Even if I indicate in configuration menu "borders on external faces" (traduction~!). But it continues to close the sides when I indicate "Borders on all the faces"...

                                http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/JointPushPull550_001.jpg

                                I don't think so because I had already made some tries but may be the version of LibTraductor.rb plays in this fail?
                                The one given in the zip package is 13 732 bytes 20/01/2008
                                and I use the recent one given with BezierSpline v121 : 19 331 bytes 07/07/2008

                                Or may be it is a cause from one of the plugins I have recently installed ❓

                                Please Fredo, what can you advise me. (I don't know nothing with ruby console, code etc..)

                                --simon.

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                                • fredo6F Offline
                                  fredo6
                                  last edited by

                                  Simon,

                                  I don't think this is related to LibTraductor.
                                  Normally, when you start up Sketchup, the default option is always to create the border faces.
                                  Is this what you observe ?

                                  Fredo

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                                  • simon le bonS Offline
                                    simon le bon
                                    last edited by

                                    Dear Fredo,
                                    Thanks for replying.
                                    JointPushPull is now a basic tool for me. To see it not working makes me nervous 💚
                                    Here is a more complete report:
                                    ( it is more easy to me to explain in pictures )

                                    http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/JointPushPull550_002.jpg


                                    http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/JointPushPull550_003.jpg


                                    http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/JointPushPull550_004.jpg


                                    http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/JointPushPull550_005.jpg


                                    http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/JointPushPull550_006.jpg


                                    http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/JointPushPull550_007.jpg


                                    http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/JointPushPull550_008.jpg

                                    What more test can I do?

                                    --simon

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                                    • fredo6F Offline
                                      fredo6
                                      last edited by

                                      Simon,

                                      Thanks.
                                      Although this seems strange, I'll check where the conflict could be.
                                      By the way, did you install LibFredo6 3.2a yet, or are you still running an earlier version?

                                      Fredo

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                                      • fredo6F Offline
                                        fredo6
                                        last edited by

                                        Simon,

                                        This has nothing to do with HoverSelect, but with LibFredo. The bug is more subtle than that: it is actually related to how SU and dialog boxes handle accentued characters in drop down controls.

                                        It only exists in the French version of JPP, because of the text "Bordures sur les faces extérieures", which contains an accent.

                                        As a result, any call to the dialog box via TAB would make the Border option void.

                                        In any case, you can change all options using Function keys (F5 to toggle for Thickening, keep face, erase face) for instance, or via the Contextual menu. This works regardless of the above bug.

                                        Attached is a quick fix to JPP (just removed the accent), but the real fix is in LibFredo. I simply need more time to make it and validate, as this is now shared in all my plugins.

                                        Fredo

                                        PS: Thanks to advise is OK


                                        jointpushpull.rb

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                                        • simon le bonS Offline
                                          simon le bon
                                          last edited by

                                          Héy Héy Héy !!!!

                                          Merci so much Fredo,

                                          Tout est Ok maintenant 😆

                                          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/JppIsBack.jpg

                                          And some shame on me -1) Not to have thought to download LibFredo6 3.2a last version. 😳 I was v3.1

                                          -2)I also hadn't thougth to remove from SU\Plugins the previous LibFredo Directories !!

                                          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/generalPicts/libfredo.jpg

                                          But at last it was not an unnecessary call to you because of this problem with accentuation..

                                          PS: I had completely missed using Function keys and now I'm going to look at them better.

                                          So much thanks for everything you do,
                                          Simon.

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                                          • simon le bonS Offline
                                            simon le bon
                                            last edited by

                                            Cher Fredo,

                                            I have finally found from where have coming the problem. In a sense it is reassuring because it's coming from you!!
                                            I have searched over the last plugins I had installed, removing them one by one, to discover from where was coming the clash.

                                            It's coming from two of them, and they are yours: ZLoader__FredoScale.rb and ZLoader__HoverSelect.rb

                                            (And this can help: no problem with: ZLoader__OnSurface.rb >> JointPushPull works well)

                                            I'm happy because i'm now sure you will find the hit...

                                            😄 simon.

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