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    [Tutorial > Modeling] How a Pro Builds a House in SU pt 2

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    • KrisidiousK Offline
      Krisidious
      last edited by

      there is a method to my madness...

      the reason I want those extra faces... it prepare for autocad and drafting a house's construction documents. if this were just a 3D model I would agree... but it's for a pro to make a real house out of.... so we need to be able to cut sections at any poin where a window is and see the mullions...

      thanks for you advice though.

      By: Kristoff Rand
      Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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        DzineTech
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        Sorry, but I don't understand what you mean by requiring the extra faces for autocad; perhaps you can explain or illustrate with a screenshot?

        @unknownuser said:

        but it's for a pro to make a real house out of.... so we need to be able to cut sections at any poin where a window is and see the mullions...

        I assume when you mean pro you mean that you will produce construction drawings based on the model and these will be issued to a professional kit manufacturer (timber frame/metal frame) or to a contractor for his brick layers. Your requirement to see the window components (head, cill, transom, mullions, jambs etc..) works exactly the same for section cuts in my workflow as yours does; the important factor being that the window component would need to be detailed enough to reveal enough information wherever the section planes are located.

        (DzineTech)

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          sorgesu
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          Kris, this is probably the most germaine and most required tutorial for SketchUp. So good of you to go to such detail to do this. Great job.

          Susan Sorger
          Former Seller Hand Rendered Entourage
          Former Canadian Authorized Training Centre, SketchUp

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          • KrisidiousK Offline
            Krisidious
            last edited by

            yes I need to buckle down and get part 3 done... the home is complete...

            here are some screenshots

            favicon

            (www.aboveallhouseplans.com)

            there are a few problems with it, but I never really complete anything... I'm always off to the next project

            By: Kristoff Rand
            Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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            • KrisidiousK Offline
              Krisidious
              last edited by

              DzineTech,

              yes you are correct in your assumption, however if you were to cut a section above the window, most people have removed those faces, and thus the window only shows up if you cut the section directly through the area in which the window is located.

              so we may both be right...

              DzineTech points out that it is the proper way to model, to remove any faces which are not seen or used. which I agree with.

              and as he or she points out, you can model the house and make construction docs from it using his method, if the all the windows and openings are at the same level, through out the home. however if some windows or openings are above others with in the same floor or plane, then you will not see them when you do a section cut at the nominal level.

              am I being clear? I'm trying, I'll make some screenshots later like DzineTech suggested. and I'll try to get part three done.

              By: Kristoff Rand
              Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                DzineTech
                last edited by

                Kris, I understand the difficulties that varying window openings poses if you are trying to show a section through both at the one time. I'm hoping your screenshots will explain how your wall construction method achieves this.

                Personally I wouldn't even consider taking a SketchUp model to create construction drawings. For me I keep use it for 3D only and use Microstation for all technical work. The workflow I use gives me speed and keeps file sizes to a minimum. If your method works for you then good. I'm certainly not egotistic and insisting that what I do is the only way to do it and all other methods are wrong.

                PS I'm Male 😄

                (DzineTech)

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                • KrisidiousK Offline
                  Krisidious
                  last edited by

                  oh of course not... there is more than one way to skin a ______...

                  By: Kristoff Rand
                  Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                    last edited by

                    Krisidious,

                    I was wondering how your plans for Part 3 were coming along? I'm sure I'm not alone in saying that I very much enjoyed part 1 & 2, and I'm eagerly awaiting part 3 to this excellent series!

                    Keep up the good work!

                    Steve

                    (stvjacques)

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                      Goggin
                      last edited by

                      Great thread!

                      I just got into SketchUp a few weeks ago, and did a mock-up of my home renovation plans. It came out pretty good, but I sure wish I had seen this tutorial first. I learned a lot of what you're advising the hard way-- through making lots of stupid mistakes.

                      I'm fortunate in that I'm starting with a .dwg file, so I don't need to trace anything. I look forward to rebuilding my house using your instructions.

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                        Larry Bates
                        last edited by

                        This is a very cool post Krisidious, but where is part One? please. NEVER MIND just found the link. 😳

                        Larry

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                        • GaieusG Offline
                          Gaieus
                          last edited by

                          Larry, here.

                          Gai...

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                          • Larry BatesL Offline
                            Larry Bates
                            last edited by

                            Thanks Gaieus, got it.

                            I have a question though, forgive me if it has been explained already. Why make the floorplan a texture? I import my plans as a picture file, then line it up on the x,y,z axis.

                            Krisidious, I think building this way will solve a problem I have been having, trying to pushpull window cutouts in a wall that is not 90 degrees to the axis. Just have not been able to do it. YOur way looks like it should work. 😄

                            This is a great tut. Got anything on using the sandbox tools? 🤓

                            Larry

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                              mk11
                              last edited by

                              Very good tutorial - I'm very new to SU, so please excuse this question, but i got lost in step 4 - how can i extrude another face on top of the door volume? tried drawing a new face on top of the door, but i always pull the original volume.

                              thx a lot

                              Marc Kleinmann
                              SU Pro 2015
                              Mac & Win

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                              • GaieusG Offline
                                Gaieus
                                last edited by

                                Hi M(arc?),

                                Try to hit the Ctr key first to create a new face while using the Push/Pull tool (if I understand your question well)

                                Gai...

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                                  mk11
                                  last edited by

                                  thx a lot - that's it.
                                  Marc

                                  Marc Kleinmann
                                  SU Pro 2015
                                  Mac & Win

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                                  • GaieusG Offline
                                    Gaieus
                                    last edited by

                                    That's what? The "Marc" or the Ctrl!Push/Pull?
                                    😉

                                    Gai...

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                                      jvh
                                      last edited by

                                      is part 1 of "how a pro....a house in su" still available?

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                                        remus
                                        last edited by

                                        jvh: http://www.sketchucation.com/forums/scf/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=723

                                        http://remusrendering.wordpress.com/

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                                          jvh
                                          last edited by

                                          thanks for the link. I am a newby and hope this will help me get starting. What's bothering me most is the stickiness of SU, being used to proframs like Vectorworks and Autocad.

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                                            Odlanier
                                            last edited by

                                            %(#008040)[Hello Gaieus, José Manuel, hello everyone.

                                            I just a most interesting tutorial on how to do a SU model from a jpg file. Very thorough and clear. I learnet a lot from it. Cograts to Krisidious.]

                                            We have only one Earth, Our children maybe just a half, theirs perhaps none; do something for our planet.

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