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    • gullfoG Offline
      gullfo
      last edited by gullfo

      as an fyi - i make make a component, then my cutting component, manual add it to the face on the primary component, it cuts. then a copy (m + ctrl to copy) that one also cuts. so something is wrong with the dynamic component use because the same copied set of attributes (whichever one says this one cuts) should be carried to the next copy(s) as well..
      acomponent.skp

      something to do with depth... with the flat version - cuts on a flat component - ok. one depth versions, first one cuts, second does not.

      non-dynamic - copies cut as expected...
      acomponent-nodyn.skp

      Glenn

      http://www.runnel.com

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      • Rich O BrienR Offline
        Rich O Brien Moderator
        last edited by

        If you flip the host part to be flat on Z and jiggle the cutters they'll sort themselves out...

        image.png

        Or use SuperGlue by Thomthom

        SketchUp_EbkqfEQwj6.gif

        It reminds SketchUp the 'Cutter' and face relationship for when it messes up.

        Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp πŸ“–

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          pcmoor
          last edited by

          For DC, embed in second cutter (parent is a cutter as well)

          acomponent.skp

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            • gullfoG Offline
              gullfo @pcmoor
              last edited by gullfo

              @pcmoor said in Copies of Cut Opening Component, Not Cutting the Opening:

              For DC, embed in second cutter (parent is a cutter as well)

              turns out cutting things which subsequently need to be rotated is not reliable... 😞 so back to using individual components to create it...

              i was hoping the cutting components in an array would do it, but then it's getting confused on rotations and trying (or seeming to) glue itself. changing to "any" didn't do it either, and left weird disconnected geometry on angles vs the 90Β° i was trying to set. anyways, this is what it looks like after i created with with sub-components to build the board...
              47722915-d6fc-4578-9b7e-8b0df19d9f00-image.png

              Glenn

              http://www.runnel.com

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                pcmoor @gullfo
                last edited by

                @gullfo
                for DC holes
                build on same axis, xy plane with z up
                this suits opencutlist

                top cutter copies should be contained in top cut cutter
                bottom cutter copies should be contained in a bottom cut cutter

                if you have to use different axis in a cuboid, there should an extra level or child to isolate the rotation. But much easier to keep all in same orientation

                checkout my DC warehouse pages
                https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/model/25c4463957ad36c2635f69bba8c8ac7/dynamic-hole-builder

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                • gullfoG Offline
                  gullfo
                  last edited by

                  yeah, i do the paired front and back. then added those as an array (per your guidance), but yet another level of indirection to try to prevent weird results when doing simple rotations? lol. i keep trying to use the cut opening, but it's really only sufficient for the simpliest stuff. using them in something like structures where i use copies of framing members (for example) it's been painful and not reliable. esp when the cut opening only works on a face and not (at least) a group, so the odds that the face and associated geometry will properly scale (and reset) etc is a crap shoot really.

                  thanks i'll check out your component

                  Glenn

                  http://www.runnel.com

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                  • gullfoG Offline
                    gullfo
                    last edited by gullfo

                    so, with the array approach, it's holding steady on simple (no edge) geometry rotated, but the face shrinkage continues to exist. anyways in case anyone is interested in the DC - cut openings phenomena...

                    example of why we cant have nice things.skp
                    example of why we cant have nice things.jpg

                    Glenn

                    http://www.runnel.com

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                      pcmoor
                      last edited by

                      as said before, rotations should be isolated with an extra level
                      this has always been the issue with DCs

                      example-of-why-we-cant-have-nice-things.skp

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                      • gullfoG Offline
                        gullfo
                        last edited by gullfo

                        ok, so adding a parent component which controls the copy and rotate, i just need to add the parameter selections in the parent and pass them to the (what was) the original component (now the child) and it seems to be working. appreciate the assist. this is an annoying feature... πŸ™‚

                        Glenn

                        http://www.runnel.com

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                          pcmoor @gullfo
                          last edited by pcmoor

                          @gullfo

                          I agree, yet the alternative, Live Components, at this stage is still not practical. It's taking far too long to compete, image if 1% of that money was afforded to DCs!

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                          • gullfoG Offline
                            gullfo
                            last edited by gullfo

                            yeah, not a fan of live components. as a "component factory" it has value, but for many of us doing complex work where dynamic components can be rapidly adjusted, scaled, etc. the DC need a lot of love which it's not getting. what would also be nice - letting non-pro users use DC but no option to peek inside or adjust anything other than exposed parameters. but i'm thinking somewhere someone got the idea of the potential for charging people to generate a "live component" and download it - voila! instant money maker... eeerrghh.

                            Glenn

                            http://www.runnel.com

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