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  • M Offline
    medeek
    last edited by 27 Sept 2024, 19:15

    So yes, staggered joist present a few issues. For example if the blocking doesn't land in the lapped region of the joist layout you end up with this:

    floor_su081_800.jpg

    Right at the moment I'm not sure how to address this or actually determine when the blocking lands in the non-lapped sections of the layout. The easy way out would be to do a boolean subtraction using the joists themselves, but then I would need to separate the resulting (multi-body) group into a bunch of groups/solids, this one is a bit of headache.

    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
    Medeek Engineering Inc
    design.medeek.com

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      medeek
      last edited by 28 Sept 2024, 06:17

      With staggered joists I am tracking how many rows of joists I need, the joist length and lapped length, so given that information (three variables) I can then run a quick check on each blocking row to see how it pencils out. This little block of code does the trick:

      if @Spanno < 2
      			stoffset = 'NEG'
      		else
      			lapcount = 1
      			for lapi in @Stjarray
      				if (distx > lapi[0]) && (distx < lapi[1])
      					stoffset = 'LAP'
      					break
      				elsif distx < lapi[0]
      					if lapcount.odd?
      						stoffset = 'NEG'
      					else
      						stoffset = 'POS'
      					end
      					break
      				elsif (distx > lapi[1]) && (lapcount == (@Spanno - 1))
      					if lapcount.odd?
      						stoffset = 'POS'
      					else
      						stoffset = 'NEG'
      					end
      					break
      				end
      
      				lapcount = lapcount + 1
      			end
      				
      		end
      

      As one can see there are really only three possibilities for the blocking: Lapped, Positive or Negative.

      The end result is this:

      floor_su082_800.jpg
      Problem solved. Now I just need to apply this same logic to the metal bracing and implement it. Insulation is somewhat different so I still don’t have a good solution for that one just yet.

      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
      Medeek Engineering Inc
      design.medeek.com

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      • M Offline
        medeek
        last edited by 28 Sept 2024, 10:33

        After another three hours of some productive thought and hacking away at some rather large blocks of code (and a few choice words) I managed to pull together a fairly efficient and robust algorithm for the cavity insulation between those irregular joists.

        Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you “Batt Insulation with Staggered Joists”:

        floor_su086_800.jpg

        floor_su087_800.jpg

        I’m exhausted, tomorrow I might take a small break.

        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
        Medeek Engineering Inc
        design.medeek.com

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          gullfo @medeek
          last edited by 28 Sept 2024, 18:26

          what if i want them staggered the other way? LOL J.K. nicely done!

          Glenn

          http://www.runnel.com

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          • M Offline
            medeek
            last edited by 1 Oct 2024, 02:36

            First look at skewed hangers with staggered joists:

            floor_su096_800.jpg

            A little bit more complicated than regular joists due to the offsets but overall its pretty much the same routine. Pretty excited that I actually can get this to work, at first I wasn't really sure if it was even feasible.

            Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
            Medeek Engineering Inc
            design.medeek.com

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              medeek
              last edited by 1 Oct 2024, 07:41

              Version 0.9.9 - 10.01.2024

              • Further updated the insulation, blocking, metal bridging and hanger modules to accommodate staggered joists.
              • Added skewed hanger options into the Floor tab of the Global Settings.
              • Added skewed hangers to the Draw and Edit menus.
              • Added the following skewed (45 degree) Simpson hangers into the built-in library: SUL24, SUL26, SUL210, SUL214, SUL1819, SUL18111, SUL18114, SUL2069, SUL20611, SUL20614, SUR24, SUR26, SUR210, SUR214, SUR1819, SUR18111, SUR18114, SUR2069, SUR20611, SUR20614
              • Updated and added a new subtraction mode to the SUBTRACT feature: SUBTRACT_JOIST
              • Added Subtractive Geometry (Joist) in the General tab of the Global Settings.

              floor_su097_800.jpg

              floor_su098_800.jpg

              Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
              Medeek Engineering Inc
              design.medeek.com

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              • M Offline
                medeek
                last edited by 2 Oct 2024, 05:40

                Version 0.9.9b - 10.01.2024

                • Updated the Floor tab of the Global Settings with additional parameters for joist construction.
                • Fixed a minor bug with the hanger module for double ply staggered studs.
                • Fixed a bug in the Draw and Edit menus so that all hangers in the library are properly displayed.
                • Added the following skewed (45 degree) Simpson hangers into the built-in library (skew_hangers): SUL410, SUL414, SUL214_2, SUL210_2, SUL26_2, SUR410, SUR414, SUR214_2, SUR210_2, SUR26_2

                floor_su099_800.jpg

                Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                Medeek Engineering Inc
                design.medeek.com

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                • M Offline
                  medeek
                  last edited by 3 Oct 2024, 18:43

                  Version 0.9.9c - 10.03.2024

                  • Enabled diagonal deck boards with the addition of a Board rotation parameter.
                  • Enabled 2-Ply rim joists with our without an air gap.

                  Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                  Medeek Engineering Inc
                  design.medeek.com

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                    medeek
                    last edited by 3 Oct 2024, 22:46

                    Version 0.9.9d - 10.03.2024

                    • Fixed critical bugs with saving of floor presets.
                    • Improved robustness of floor attribute library and data lookup methods.

                    Some incremental improvements but necessary.

                    IMPORTANT
                    Note that the last few updates prior to this update introduced a number of new features that effectively disabled the saving of floor presets. Please download this latest update to restore the ability to save floor presets.

                    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                    Medeek Engineering Inc
                    design.medeek.com

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                    • M Offline
                      medeek
                      last edited by medeek 10 Apr 2024, 22:44 4 Oct 2024, 22:44

                      Double rim joists with air gap, lapped and extended:

                      floor_su107_800.jpg

                      A quick test of the non-orthogonal floor types shows that the algorithm holds up as it should:

                      floor_su108_800.jpg

                      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                      Medeek Engineering Inc
                      design.medeek.com

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                      • M Offline
                        medeek
                        last edited by 5 Oct 2024, 03:18

                        Version 0.9.9e - 10.04.2024

                        • Updated 2-Ply rim joists with air gap to extend joists that are in a lapped configuration.
                        • Updated the Floor tab of the Global Settings with even more parameters for joist construction.
                        • Added the following face mount Simpson hangers into the built-in library: MIU1819, MIU18111, MIU18114, MIU18116, MIU18118.

                        floor_su109_800.jpg

                        floor_su110_800.jpg

                        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                        Medeek Engineering Inc
                        design.medeek.com

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                          medeek
                          last edited by 5 Oct 2024, 06:14

                          Tutorial #4: Deck Boards (6:42 min.)

                          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                          Medeek Engineering Inc
                          design.medeek.com

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                            medeek
                            last edited by 5 Oct 2024, 06:14

                            Tutorial 5 - Rim Joists and Sill Plates (5:47 min.)

                            Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                            Medeek Engineering Inc
                            design.medeek.com

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                              medeek
                              last edited by 5 Oct 2024, 06:15

                              Tutorial 6 - Skewed Joist Hangers (5:03 min.)

                              Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                              Medeek Engineering Inc
                              design.medeek.com

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                                medeek
                                last edited by 5 Oct 2024, 06:15

                                Tutorial 7 - Subtractive Geometry (10:57 min.)

                                Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                Medeek Engineering Inc
                                design.medeek.com

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                                  medeek
                                  last edited by 5 Oct 2024, 06:16

                                  Tutorial 8 - Staggered Joists (5:06 min.)

                                  Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                  Medeek Engineering Inc
                                  design.medeek.com

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                                  • M Offline
                                    medeek
                                    last edited by 6 Oct 2024, 04:57

                                    One additional parameter for removing specific rim boards:

                                    remove_rim_boards.gif

                                    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                    Medeek Engineering Inc
                                    design.medeek.com

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                                      medeek
                                      last edited by 6 Oct 2024, 19:58

                                      I am currently working on the floor covering tool which will then become the code template for the floor opening tool. Once I have those two big items completed I think we will finally have a mostly usable plugin.

                                      I am sure there will be requests for additional features and/or changes to the functionality but the core of the plugin will be mostly in place. At that point I will test the plugin in as many states as possible and attempt to discover any final bugs or issues, then within a couple days I will probably release Version 1.0.0.

                                      Further integration with the estimating module will also be something on the todo list in the weeks ahead.

                                      As always please feel free to chime in with any specific requests or items you feel need to be addressed. I take all feedback and suggestions very seriously and I take everything under consideration. Ultimately I will weigh every idea in the balance and based on its relevancy and time considerations your ideas may quickly become a reality within this plugin or any other plugin in the Medeek family.

                                      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                      Medeek Engineering Inc
                                      design.medeek.com

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                                      • M Offline
                                        medeek
                                        last edited by 9 Oct 2024, 01:21

                                        Is 8,000 sqft too large? I'm going to say yes, at least for most people.

                                        floor_su139_800.jpg

                                        Besides the regular mdkBIM plugins I also used the grid tool (Medeek Project), but the regular SketchUp grid tool works just as well. A grid tool is a requirement in my opinion, you really need something like this for laying things out correctly.

                                        I also used TIG's mirror tool for certain manual modeling tasks.

                                        The trim and extend tools in the Medeek Project were also very handy for creating my diagonal braces.

                                        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                        Medeek Engineering Inc
                                        design.medeek.com

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                                          medeek
                                          last edited by 9 Oct 2024, 11:56

                                          My wife said my design was boring so I saved a new version and let her try to come up with something a little more interesting…

                                          floor_su140_800.jpg floor_su141_800.jpg floor_su142_800.jpg floor_su143_800.jpg

                                          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                          Medeek Engineering Inc
                                          design.medeek.com

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