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  • M Offline
    medeek
    last edited by 18 Jun 2022, 22:42

    Looks like I’ve got most of the basic Global Settings all put together now. Fairly basic to start with, I’m sure as this progresses it will diverge from the initial template quite a bit:

    https://aws1.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/2/a/2ad2b3ae78dbde67fc584e8e738f5c3a45577ab7.jpeg

    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
    Medeek Engineering Inc
    design.medeek.com

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      medeek
      last edited by 25 Feb 2023, 10:28

      The edit menu and draw menu are pretty much done now, just a few more tweaks and error checking and we might be able to start creating our first real floors with this thing:

      https://global.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/optimized/3X/2/0/20c16d0501736d7be6258e6ce72a539eaf42e7cd_2_228x500.jpeg

      I was going to include the blocking as an advanced option but after some further thought it seemed like it might be more intuitive to have the blocking be similar to beams and openings, where you can really customize the location and size etc... of each row of blocks independently.

      I usually have a pretty good idea how I want things to go even before I start coding but sometimes you get halfway into it and you realize that an alternative method or system would be more optimal.

      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
      Medeek Engineering Inc
      design.medeek.com

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        medeek
        last edited by 10 Aug 2024, 21:02

        I realize that people are chomping at the bit for this new plugin and I have been working on it diligently for the last two to three weeks. The biggest holdup has been going back through all of the code and bringing it up to speed with the other plugins. There have been quite a few incremental changes to the other plugins with regards to licensing, materials, layers etc...

        For instance the plugin material library back end was originally coded based off of the 2022 version of the Wall plugin. I just updated all of the code now so that it is keeping in line with the most current version of the Wall plugins material library code base.

        floor_su004_800.jpg

        So right now I'm spending a few more days making sure everything is modern and up to speed with the other plugins.

        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
        Medeek Engineering Inc
        design.medeek.com

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          gullfo @medeek
          last edited by 10 Aug 2024, 23:37

          Yay! it's finally coming!

          Glenn

          http://www.runnel.com

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            medeek
            last edited by 11 Aug 2024, 18:34

            I might actually designate the initial release a BETA number but I'm still not decided on that yet.

            Right now the plugin is all torn apart as I continue to add in a few additional features like presets and the "remove joist list" option:

            IMG_0385.jpg

            This is my current desk setup, I've just added the big monitor to my left which gives me more screen real estate and improves my coding efficiency.  This is where all the magic happens, at least for now.

            I also initially used the slab-on-grade code for moving edges of the floor perimeter but now that I'm testing it more extensively it appears that I should probably switch to the code I use for the complex roofs, so some additional adjustments required there as well.

            This is how the sausage is made, one line of code at a time.

            Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
            Medeek Engineering Inc
            design.medeek.com

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              gullfo
              last edited by 11 Aug 2024, 19:30

              what, no physical scale models of a floor joist system as a handy reference? 🙂

              Glenn

              http://www.runnel.com

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                medeek
                last edited by 13 Aug 2024, 18:00

                The draw and edit menus are working great (all HTML) but I’ve decided I might as well add in “floor” presets since I know that request will be coming down pike if I don’t add it in initially.

                Also after using the current menus and given all the I-joist options (sizes and manufacturers) it seems almost cryptic in many ways unless you are intimately familiar with the various manufacturer’s product numbers. I’m not saying now but maybe at a later date (after the initial release) I will add in a small SVG graphic into both of these menus which give a simple preview (cross section) with dimensions of the selected I-joist product. It would certainly make the menus a bit more graphical and exciting(engaging) and actually be minimal work to implement, thoughts?

                Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                Medeek Engineering Inc
                design.medeek.com

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                  gullfo @medeek
                  last edited by 13 Aug 2024, 18:15

                  i might suggest only simple icons - wood, metal, i-joist and glulam representations and textual info - should be sufficient to select the range of product by type and then list the dimensions. chances are someone engineering this structure would have likely researched the products and specs before going though the effort to lay it out...

                  Glenn

                  http://www.runnel.com

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                    medeek
                    last edited by 1 Sept 2024, 06:55

                    How soon should I release the BETA version? I'm currently checking the floor preset functionality and I will also look at the addition of insulation (bat or fill) tomorrow. The gypsum (ceiling) seems to be working great, but eventually I will add in battens because I know someone will request it, but it is not top priority right now.

                    I'm thinking I will push out the opening and beam modules after I release the BETA, they will complicate things and may take a few weeks of tweaking and testing before they are ready for prime time. The opening module will be the higher priority of the two.

                    I've created the template for the integration with the estimating module, but this will also require further fleshing out. In addition there will need to be updates to the cost database and weight database modules that integrate materials for the floor assemblies.

                    I'm honestly not sure how useful the connection function is as compared to the Truss plugin, but it will be a feature since most of the heavy lifting is already done.

                    The CUSTOM and SUBTRACT feature will be similar to the Truss plugin, it is in place and appears to be working as it should, further testing would be prudent.

                    The I-Joist libraries (sizes and types) is much more organized than the previous system and should be easier to maintain and if required more manufacturers can be easily added. I may also add in a "custom I-Joist" option which would allow one to specify the full set of dimensions for a custom sized I-Joist (depth, flange depth, flange width, web width, web material etc...)

                    Similar to the Truss and Wall plugins, one can specify a comma deliminated remove list to remove specific joists from an assembly.

                    Still lots to do but it is almost close enough to the finish line to think about putting it out there and start garning feedback and suggestions.

                    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                    Medeek Engineering Inc
                    design.medeek.com

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                      gullfo @medeek
                      last edited by 1 Sept 2024, 17:42

                      @medeek maybe keep working on it a couple more weeks and then release the beta. it sounds like you're still in the middle of a couple of things that may hamper a good set of beta testing.

                      Glenn

                      http://www.runnel.com

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                      • M Offline
                        medeek
                        last edited by 3 Sept 2024, 05:00

                        Added a “Floors” tab to the global settings, I’m sure this tab will get more populated as development progresses.

                        floor_su007_800.jpg

                        The tool tip in the draw and edit menu.

                        floor_su008_800.jpg

                        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                        Medeek Engineering Inc
                        design.medeek.com

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                          medeek
                          last edited by 4 Sept 2024, 10:27

                          Batt and Blown insulation are now enabled:

                          floor_su009_800.jpg

                          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                          Medeek Engineering Inc
                          design.medeek.com

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                            gullfo @medeek
                            last edited by 4 Sept 2024, 15:36

                            @medeek quick note - the ability to renew or purchase the floor plugin is failing with a "gateway or proxy" error:

                            502 - Web server received an invalid response while acting as a gateway or proxy server.

                            Glenn

                            http://www.runnel.com

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                              medeek @gullfo
                              last edited by 6 Sept 2024, 09:07

                              @gullfo

                              I will look into it, but you cannot currently purchase the plugin since I have not yet released it to the public.

                              Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                              Medeek Engineering Inc
                              design.medeek.com

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                                medeek
                                last edited by 6 Sept 2024, 09:08

                                In the Materials tab of the Global Settings you can switch between the more realistic textures/materials for lumber and pressure treated lumber:

                                floor_su011_800.jpg

                                floor_su012_800.jpg

                                Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                Medeek Engineering Inc
                                design.medeek.com

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                                  medeek
                                  last edited by 7 Sept 2024, 07:40

                                  First look at a mitered rim joist:

                                  floor_su013_800.jpg floor_su014_800.jpg floor_su015_800.jpg floor_su016_800.jpg floor_su017_800.jpg floor_su018_800.jpg

                                  I know, no one builds it this way but I’m just covering all my bases.

                                  I just need to test the sill plate algorithm tomorrow morning and I think we are ready for an initial BETA release.

                                  Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                  Medeek Engineering Inc
                                  design.medeek.com

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                                    gullfo @medeek
                                    last edited by gullfo 9 Aug 2024, 16:04 8 Sept 2024, 16:03

                                    it would be awesome for joist hangers esp on the angled parts. currently i use my own dynamic component to build angled versions of the hangers - not technically detailed but sufficient for parts list and for the contractors to build it... not sure about the mitred rim joist but i think i would likely recommend it for my projects where i only have a very small air gap so the mitred ends would be a neat finish.

                                    Glenn

                                    http://www.runnel.com

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                                      medeek
                                      last edited by 8 Sept 2024, 21:16

                                      A reverse lapped rim joist with a regular lap on the sill plate:
                                      floor_su025_800.jpg

                                      floor_su026_800.jpg

                                      floor_su027_800.jpg
                                      I think I will forego the “solid” option for the rim and sill for now. If requested I will add it in but I don’t consider it a priority right now.

                                      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                      Medeek Engineering Inc
                                      design.medeek.com

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                                        medeek
                                        last edited by 9 Sept 2024, 03:03

                                        The Move Floor Edge tool is working as it should:

                                        moving_edges.gif

                                        This tool is very similar to the tool in the complex roof module with some minor adjustments.

                                        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                        Medeek Engineering Inc
                                        design.medeek.com

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                                          medeek
                                          last edited by 9 Sept 2024, 06:37

                                          Version 0.9.0 - 09.08.2024

                                          • Created the Medeek Floor Plugin, utilizing SketchUp's Ruby API.
                                          • Added the draw floor tool with the ability to create I-Joist and solid sawn (lumber) polygon shaped floors.

                                          The Floor extension can be downloaded directly here:

                                          http://design.medeek.com/calculator/sketchup/medeek_floor_ext.rbz

                                          Note that this is a BETA release and does not include all of the future planned functionality (ie. openings, beams etc...) I am only posting this release in a few select locations to allow power users to test it out first and help me further debug and refine it. After approximately a week I will send out a notification to all users letting them know that the release is now publicly available. Hopefully in that time I can catch the most glaring bugs and issues so that my inbox does not become swamped.

                                          Also all those who have been issued licenses in the last year or so will have their expiration update date of their license automatically renewed so that it will be active for one year starting from tomorrow's date (09/09/2025).

                                          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                          Medeek Engineering Inc
                                          design.medeek.com

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