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    • Rich O BrienR Online
      Rich O Brien Moderator
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      I'm not sure what those red and blue points are. But I don't think they are bezier related.

      Maybe hinge/pivot points for access?

      It's much easier generate a profile based off of this...

      https://i.imgur.com/V0WHNGX.png

      That way you can plot it out on a grid then extrude...

      https://i.imgur.com/iAtauro.png

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      • bazB Offline
        baz
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        Thanks Rich, I was hoping to get a better understanding of Beziers generally and in this case Bezier curves would allow me to not only tweak the profile, (which I need to do), but also to generate hi-res CNC files. Cheers.

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        • Rich O BrienR Online
          Rich O Brien Moderator
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          Oh, I misunderstood.

          For this I'd use FredoSpline's Bezier Classic...

          https://i.imgur.com/QSRbGI2.png

          5 internal points at least and just nudge them bout until curve lines up.

          If you right click the curve in this and use Fredo's Edit you and play with the placement and segments.

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          • bazB Offline
            baz
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            Thanks Rich. As mentioned, not much knowledge with Beziers. And I cant find 'Edit' on right click...

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            • BoxB Offline
              Box
              last edited by

              If you just want to have the basics for a Classic Bezier.

              Single click start and end position
              Single click control points starting need the beginning
              Double click to place last control point
              While control points are active type the number of segments and an s, in this case I typed 48s, and hit enter
              Click and drag the control points to shape the curve
              Double click to add or remove control points
              Click off the the controls to complete
              Use the Edit icon on the toolbar if you wish to go back to edit mode.


              2023-01-22_14h17_59.gif

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              • bazB Offline
                baz
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                Great, I get it. Thanks Box.

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                • panixiaP Offline
                  panixia
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                  @rich o brien said:

                  I'm not sure what those red and blue points are. But I don't think they are bezier related.

                  They are the focal points of two different ellipses.
                  The green and the purple are the center of two arcs.

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                  • Rich O BrienR Online
                    Rich O Brien Moderator
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                    @panixia said:

                    They are the focal points of two different ellipses.
                    The green and the purple are the centers of two arcs.

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                    • panixiaP Offline
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                      It's actually simpler than it looks (and I'm really bad at math). πŸ˜„
                      An ellipse is actually the collection of the points that are found were the sum of theyr distance from focal points is the same.
                      It may sound even more complicated in this way, but that's actually how you can easyly draw an ellipse in real world (a bezier spline would be actually quite a bit more complex to replicate with a pencil, a simple string and a couple of nails). πŸ˜›
                      Look at this.

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                      • bazB Offline
                        baz
                        last edited by

                        Damn! Something was niggling me about those lines and points... ellipse major minors of course... I have used Ellipses in my work for years. And always with the major/minor stick method.
                        Thanks Panixia.

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                        • panixiaP Offline
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                          @baz said:

                          Damn! Something was niggling me about those lines and points... ellipse major minors of course... I have used Ellipses in my work for years. And always with the major/minor stick method.
                          Thanks Panixia.

                          Sometimes actually "less is more" 🀣

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                          • bazB Offline
                            baz
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                            Panixia, Can you tell me the name of the Plugin you are using for this? I have always only scaled circles to produce ellipses til now. Thanks.

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                            • panixiaP Offline
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                              @baz said:

                              Panixia, Can you tell me the name of the Plugin you are using for this? I have always only scaled circles to produce ellipses til now. Thanks.

                              It's called "Tools on surface" and it's part of the Fredo bundle.
                              I strongly reccomend to buy the bundle because every single plugin in that collection is absolutely a banger. (Pay attention to the fact that you also need the free libfredo6 shared library to make those plugins work).

                              http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=76625#p76625

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                              • Bryan KB Offline
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                                @panixia said:

                                @baz said:

                                Panixia, Can you tell me the name of the Plugin you are using for this? I have always only scaled circles to produce ellipses til now. Thanks.

                                It's called "Tools on surface" and it's part of the Fredo bundle.
                                I strongly reccomend to buy the bundle because every single plugin in that collection is absolutely a banger. (Pay attention to the fact that you also need the free libfredo6 shared library to make those plugins work).

                                http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=76625#p76625

                                Yep. I also paid for the package and they are solid workman's tools I could not do without and saved me a lot of time and extra effort.

                                See my portfolio at https://delphiscousin.blogspot.com/

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