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    Joe Wood
    last edited by 21 Jul 2021, 00:45

    That's a nice presentation MIke!

    give any thought about ridge and soffit vents?

    Joe Wood
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      Mike Lucey
      last edited by 21 Jul 2021, 15:58

      Thanks for showing your interest guys, much appreciated.

      Joe, good point. However I'm now looking at the possibility of a mono truss type construction. This would serve two purposes, elimination of fascia/soffite and allow for a single material for roof and walls. Not sure, yet about which sheeting material to use yet, ideally it would need to be able to take a 45 degree bend. Timber ventilation would then be from the base (wall) to the ridge with vents positioned there.
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        Mike Lucey
        last edited by 23 Jul 2021, 16:40

        .... still playing with the tiny house design. I've eliminated the Velux windows also the eaves on the current design iteration and am looking at corrugated bitumen sheeting. I've sourced a manufacturer that produces sheets and accessories from 100% recycled materials, so that's a plus.

        Revised Tiny House Design.jpeg

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          Mike Amos
          last edited by 28 Jul 2021, 09:55

          A very interesting project, not easy are they? I found flat or very slightly sloping roof's work best for volume/footprint usage.

          The alternate one foot steps have been used in boats and loft extensions for a long while but they would take some getting used to. Step off with the left foot and it's a LONG first step.

          Solar or sun tubes are unlikely for this type of design which is a nuisance, they can liberate a lot of natural light and improve the feel of a home. A cupola type of unit perhaps?

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            Mike Lucey
            last edited by 28 Jul 2021, 16:23

            Yes Mike, I'm finding the project very interesting.

            The stairs is tricky to get right. My proposed ground floor to bottom of floor joists will be 2.1m (approx 7'0"). I will expose the floor joists in order to give the impression of more height. The rise per step will be approx 230mm a shade over the normally allowed maximum in standard dwellings (225mm).

            Sleeping Loft Stairs.jpeg
            I've used this type of stairs on a few attic conversions in the past and once the occupier gets used to them they work fine. I have included two hand rails which wrap around the 1st floor partition. These should help to make the stairs safer to use.

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              Mike Lucey
              last edited by 30 Jul 2021, 16:26

              Meeting the kitchenette requirements has been a little tricky but I'm nearly there. I have to yet change the single bowl sink to a bowl/drainer and its done. Compact Minumum Kitchenette.gif

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                L i am
                last edited by 30 Jul 2021, 16:50

                Nice work! must be a fun project Desigfning for yourself. One thing is those steps will not pass building code I would wager πŸ˜‰

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                  Joe Wood
                  last edited by 30 Jul 2021, 17:22

                  these stairs might meet code better Mike, as they have closed risers. I saved these from somewhere way back during the @Last days.


                  FF_Model_ID2396_1_spacesaverstair_gratis.skp

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                    L i am
                    last edited by 30 Jul 2021, 17:41

                    @joe wood said:

                    these stairs might meet code better Mike, as they have closed risers. I saved these from somewhere way back during the @Last days.

                    Hi Joe, those stairs wont work. Risers and tread need to be consistant as if you do not watch your feet Like in the dark you not have a predictable rise, if you have a bias to the left or right of the staircase or transitioning between the two...............thump crash

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                      TIG Moderator
                      last edited by 30 Jul 2021, 18:13

                      In the UK 'space-saver' stairs [alternating-treads] are allowed if accessing limited upper-floor space, and they meet a set of rules... e.g.
                      https://www.loftcentre.co.uk/loft-stairs-spirals/space-saving-stairs
                      In Ireland there are similar, if different, possibilities...
                      https://connollystairs.ie/product/space-saver-attic-stairs-ireland/

                      TIG

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                        L i am
                        last edited by 31 Jul 2021, 04:32

                        @tig said:

                        In the UK 'space-saver' stairs [alternating-treads] are allowed if accessing limited upper-floor space, and they meet a set of rules... e.g.
                        https://www.loftcentre.co.uk/loft-stairs-spirals/space-saving-stairs
                        In Ireland there are similar, if different, possibilities...
                        https://connollystairs.ie/product/space-saver-attic-stairs-ireland/

                        Thanks for clarifying TIG, about 8 years ago part of my job was building compliance in Australia. So it makes sense for things to have changed with higher density living initiatives including shipping containers. Australia may have moved on the building codes, we often move inline with the UK 😳

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                          Mike Amos
                          last edited by 11 Aug 2021, 16:22

                          Thinking a bit about this, is there a need/use for a thread about these projects? Something where people can exchange idea's and ask questions? Example, just what would be considered essential for a small home to be habitable without the resident going completely round the bend and, I don't know, go into politics?

                          Something I was thinking for Mr Mayor's project is a roof that can be pushed up like an awning, making an opening for summer. Possibly have a screen for the biters.

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                            Mike Lucey
                            last edited by 11 Aug 2021, 23:59

                            @mike amos said:

                            Thinking a bit about this, is there a need/use for a thread about these projects? Something where people can exchange idea's and ask questions? Example, just what would be considered essential for a small home to be habitable without the resident going completely round the bend and, I don't know, go into politics?

                            Something I was thinking for Mr Mayor's project is a roof that can be pushed up like an awning, making an opening for summer. Possibly have a screen for the biters.

                            Hi Mike,

                            I also think a thread for these kind of projects would work well. Possibly a sub forum for design projects in general where members here that are in various fields of design could show projects to the general community and at the same time benefit from concrete feedback.

                            Such a sub forum might also transition into a place that would allow the designers to sell the designs via SketchUcation thus generating income from their work.

                            I take your points regarding a cabrio roof and screen for 'biters' but here is Ireland we really don't get a lot sun and we have very few 'biters'. I have modified the design further to include a fixed cantilevered canopy. I'm currently finalising a short presentation movie and will load a link to same shortly for comment.

                            Mike

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                              Mike Lucey
                              last edited by 18 Aug 2021, 16:59

                              I've simplified and finished the design for the Tiny House and am now putting the presentation movie together. I should have it finished a in couple of days and will post here.

                              The key to the simplification was the use of the Friheten Sofa Bed which is available at IKEA.

                              I am attaching shots showing how this sofa bed transforms.


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                                Mike Amos
                                last edited by 23 Aug 2021, 13:49

                                I am convinced that ratio of depth to width is the key to real habitability in these small properties. 2 to 1 seems to be a sweet spot.

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                                  dale
                                  last edited by 24 Aug 2021, 15:26

                                  These aren't quite as tiny as yours Mike, but the idea of pocket neighbourhoods is worth a look. He also includes lot of fine innovations.

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                                  Pocket Neighborhoods – Ross Chapin Architects

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                                  Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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                                    Mike Amos
                                    last edited by 24 Aug 2021, 22:48

                                    Interesting link. πŸ‘

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                                      Mike Lucey
                                      last edited by 29 Aug 2021, 20:25

                                      I've finished the Tiny House design. It's now quite a simple design suited to a single user or couple. Here are a few images of the Tiny House also a link to a short short video.
                                      https://vimeo.com/594255773


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                                        Mike Amos
                                        last edited by 30 Aug 2021, 15:08

                                        Mike, that looks bloody good actually. πŸ‘

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                                          dale
                                          last edited by 30 Aug 2021, 15:41

                                          Very well considered Mike. It is a real challenge to get all that is needed in such a small place. I think you have had total success.

                                          Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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