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    • alvisA Offline
      alvis
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      very funny 😄

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      • GD3DesignG Offline
        GD3Design
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        Great modeling, use of Subdiv and cartoon render...but just as important, full of character. Love it. 😄

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        • HornOxxH Offline
          HornOxx
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          Thanks All 😉 I very much appreciate that you like this little simple "character" fun 😄

          never trust a skinny cook

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            Builder54
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            Carpenter Ant

            I post my models here because I want illustrate to others who may be interested in Organic modelling that it's quite possible with Sketchup, largely because of the amazing extensions (QuadFace Tools, Vertex Tools 2, and SUbD) that ThomThom developed. The more I work with them the greater appreciation I have. Model on!

            The painted low poly model was later edited to improve on the leg detail. You can see in the Substance Painter example below how the legs had lost their definition after subdivision. I later used QuadFace Tools to add loops to maintain shape.

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            Substance Painter
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            I used the free trial of V Ray and Substance Painter to add some realism. I have not had any prior experience with either so the results are not good, but they do help to add some realism.

            V-Ray
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            "Don't be afraid of working hard. There are No shortcuts to mastering something."

            Robh Ruppel

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            • HornOxxH Offline
              HornOxx
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              Klasse! 👍 Great work again. (I love these SketchUp illustrations even more than the rendered versions)

              never trust a skinny cook

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              • alvisA Offline
                alvis
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                A short biology lesson 😄 . Nice

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                  Builder54
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                  @hornoxx said:

                  Klasse! 👍 Great work again. (I love these SketchUp illustrations even more than the rendered versions)

                  Thank you HornOxx. I tend to agree with you. The thing I like about Substance Painter is being able to stay in 3D. But I know what you mean about the raw modelling illustrations. Cheers

                  "Don't be afraid of working hard. There are No shortcuts to mastering something."

                  Robh Ruppel

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                    Builder54
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                    @alvis said:

                    A short biology lesson 😄 . Nice

                    Too funny 😆 The reference photo helped me to redraw the legs to keep their shape and definition

                    "Don't be afraid of working hard. There are No shortcuts to mastering something."

                    Robh Ruppel

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                      tuna1957
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                      Don’t really like ants. But your ants “bitchin ” ! 👍

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                        Builder54
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                        @tuna1957 said:

                        Don’t really like ants. But your ants “bitchin ” ! 👍

                        A compliment of the highest order hahaha. Thanks tuna1957

                        "Don't be afraid of working hard. There are No shortcuts to mastering something."

                        Robh Ruppel

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                          Builder54
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                          My favorite Sci-Fi character


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                          "Don't be afraid of working hard. There are No shortcuts to mastering something."

                          Robh Ruppel

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                            tuna1957
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                            Builder54, Great job on a complex character ! 👍

                            Now to return to earth..... as time allows I go back into my early SubD models and try to fix "rookie" mistakes. Reworked one of my first SubD sofas. Lots of mistakes in the first go round 😆 . Second time around looks much better and even lower poly to boot.... 😎


                            taylor sofa 2a.jpg

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                              Builder54
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                              Thanks very much!

                              @tuna1957 said:

                              Second time around looks much better and even lower poly to boot.... 😎

                              Interesting you mention the lower poly count. I'm becoming increasingly aware that my models have way to many poly's, and the key is to keep it simple and strategic.

                              "Don't be afraid of working hard. There are No shortcuts to mastering something."

                              Robh Ruppel

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                                ramonbastos
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                                Hello! I noticed that when I use SubD, it creates some polygons that are not really necessary, making the file bigger. You can see in the example below:

                                Polygons generated by SubD

                                Here I erased some lines just to show that they were not necessary.

                                I tried using TT's cleanup, looks like it removes some "random" lines. Of course its not random, but it leaves a lot of lines that I can erase and keep the same geometry.

                                Any tips on how to optimize it?

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                                • GD3DesignG Offline
                                  GD3Design
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                                  See if 'Fixit 101' will get you where you're going.

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                                    cotty
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                                    @ramonbastos said:

                                    Hello! I noticed that when I use SubD, it creates some polygons that are not really necessary, making the file bigger.

                                    It's propably because of the SketchUp (inofficial) quad definition:
                                    "two triangles share an edge which is soft and smooth - with Cast Shadows turned off"
                                    [https://evilsoftwareempire.com/subd/quads]

                                    my SketchUp gallery

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                                      nlipovac
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                                      @ramonbastos said:

                                      Hello! I noticed that when I use SubD, it creates some polygons that are not really necessary, making the file bigger. You can see in the example below:

                                      [attachment=1:1fj1e773]<!-- ia1 -->panela 01.png<!-- ia1 -->[/attachment:1fj1e773]

                                      [attachment=0:1fj1e773]<!-- ia0 -->Screenshot_53.png<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:1fj1e773]

                                      I tried using TT's cleanup, looks like it removes some "random" lines. Of course its not random, but it leaves a lot of lines that I can erase and keep the same geometry.

                                      Any tips on how to optimize it?

                                      I think this is the way Open SubDiv works, it subdivides polygons and does not care if they are coplanar after subdivision.
                                      If you use the Cleanup plugin after you are done with subdivision then you are actually doing decimation of that model by removing edges from coplanar polygons.
                                      Where you can get in trouble after you do Cleanup is texturing where there could be some distorted texture on those polygons.

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                                        Builder54
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                                        @ramonbastos said:

                                        Any tips on how to optimize it?

                                        You could try tweaking with Vertex Tools Merging Close Vertices. It's demonstrated in this video

                                        "Don't be afraid of working hard. There are No shortcuts to mastering something."

                                        Robh Ruppel

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                                          ramonbastos
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                                          @gd3design said:

                                          See if 'Fixit 101' will get you where you're going.

                                          Thanks! Great plugin by the way. It worked better than cleanup, but still left some coplanar edges, and looks random too, that will give me trouble when texturing. (See attachment)

                                          @builder54 said:

                                          @ramonbastos said:

                                          Any tips on how to optimize it?

                                          You could try tweaking with Vertex Tools Merging Close Vertices. It's demonstrated in this video

                                          Unfortunately didn't work, some edges that I did not want to merge, got merged.


                                          panela 03.png

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                                            Builder54
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                                            On a hot summer's night you may hear the buzzing sound produced by a cicada.

                                            Cicadas Brood X 2021

                                            Sketchup Pro 2017
                                            QuadFace Tools, Vertex tools, SUbD

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                                            "Don't be afraid of working hard. There are No shortcuts to mastering something."

                                            Robh Ruppel

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