[Plugin][$] FredoCorner - v2.7a - 31 Mar 24

numerobis · 5 Sept 2018, 09:27

I take the idea of the Modifier, which was my initial goal, but is more complex to do.

A real modifier system in SU would be great. Maybe if some of you plugin geniuses could join together to get Trimble to at least support this effort, if it would be possible with some modifications in the SU code.
Based on the experience of the last years i think we won't see any real improvements of SU in the near future, but maybe there would be a way to extend the capability in form of payed extentions that go deeper than the current plugins.

btw. If you can store this rounding information with the object, would it be possible to implement material IDs on this level?

fredo6 · 5 Sept 2018, 10:56

@numerobis said:

btw. If you can store this rounding information with the object, would it be possible to implement material IDs on this level?

What do you mean exactly by storing "material id"

Fredo

PS: The modifier concept is difficult to implement in Sketchup, native or within extension, because Sketchup does not track the operations, except locally in the Undo stack, but anyway not with the parameters and description of what has been done. So I am afraid that:

a modifier system would require you use its framework for everything you do in SU (grasshopper approach)
or you have very specialized modifiers for some functions provided by extensions, as I may come up with with FredoCorner.

numerobis · 7 Sept 2018, 10:58

@fredo6 said:

What do you mean exactly by storing "material id"

I mean material IDs like in other other programs, which can be used for multi materials, random materials, object distribution or selection sets.

Here in max:
1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJiwnQ3anwM
2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8qQlb8HupI

Or used in RailClone for distribution of objects
https://youtu.be/Xe0MPT0S0wI?t=625

Btw. would it be possible to get material informations from lines, when you extrude lines to a face? Then you could have a set of lines with assigned materials and they will be applied to the extruded faces. Combined with an automatic generation of mapping coordinates that follow the extrusion like it is already possible in ThruPaint, this could be really helpful i think (video 2).

Oxer · 7 Sept 2018, 14:35

Thanks Fredo for this incredible tool!!

There is an issue on macOS 10.13.6 & SU2016, when the tool is activated I can't orbit (through shortcut: Ctrl+Cmd) to select edges.
I created the Spanish language file, here is:

FredoCorner_ES.lang.zip

fredo6 · 7 Sept 2018, 15:44

@oxer said:

There is an issue on macOS 10.13.6 & SU2016, when the tool is activated I can't orbit (through shortcut: Ctrl+Cmd) to select edges.

What is Ctrl+Command doing exactly.

Note: I had to implement a custom orbit and Pan tool within FredoCorner, because otherwise, it would not be possible to see the preview, which is simply drawn in the viewport.

You will notice it, because unlike the native orbiter, mine stops orbiting when the mouse is not in the viewport (i.e. over toolbars or dialog boxes).

On Windows, the following is implemented

Middle mouse button --> orbit
Middle mouse button + shift --> Pan
Middle mouse button + Ctrl --> Free orbit (i.e. not keeping horizontal floor)
Middle mouse button + Left mouse button --> Pan

I have assumed it would be the same on Mac.

So please tell me if it is different and also if there are extra features that I missed.

Fredo

PS: For the translation, very kind of you. Thank you. Actually, in v1.1a, not all strings are exposed yet, so there will be a remaining part (same for LibFredo6)

fredo6 · 7 Sept 2018, 16:05

@numerobis said:

@fredo6 said:

What do you mean exactly by storing "material id"

I mean material IDs like in other other programs, which can be used for multi materials, random materials, object distribution or selection sets.

Ok, I see the concept, and it might be useful.
However, all what is shown in the videos seems to be beyond the power of Sketchup, unless this is implemented natively or explicitely supported by the Ruby API.

Since SU2017, where a change was introduced that severely damaged the only robust pattern to control the generation of geometry based on temporary groups, it is extremely difficult to propagate information when you create new geometry derived from an old one containing this information. It is challenging, even for something as simple a FredoCorner, where the only information I propagate is about edge properties and face materials.

So I am afraid that extensions will remain fairly limited in this domain, and for the concept of modifiers too, except in some specific situations.

Fredo

cmd · 7 Sept 2018, 17:06

Hello Fredo. Great stuff!! Thanks for building this.

I am seeing a possible bug. --> Except for zoom, I am not able to navigate the model with my mouse while FredoCorner is active. To be specific, Pan (Middle mouse button + shift) and Orbit (Middle mouse button) do not work via the mouse controls.

Navigation DOES work while using your Round Corner extension

Mac HighSeirra 10.13.6
SketchUp Pro 2018, Version 18.0.16976

Cheers
CMD

Ahmed0007 · 7 Sept 2018, 17:49

Thank You Fredo
i hope i can do this in paid version

Oxer · 7 Sept 2018, 18:55

@fredo6 said:

What is Ctrl+Command doing exactly.

On Mac you can orbit while you use another tool (i.e draw a line) without the neccesity to exit of the tool to orbit.
I can't test the shortcuts above because I use a Apple Magic Mouse, there isn't middle button:
- Middle mouse button --> orbit
- Middle mouse button + shift --> Pan
- Middle mouse button + Ctrl --> Free orbit (i.e. not keeping horizontal floor)
- Middle mouse button + Left mouse button --> Pan

@cmd said:

To be specific, Pan (Middle mouse button + shift) and Orbit (Middle mouse button) do not work via the mouse controls.

Navigation DOES work while using your Round Corner extension

Mac HighSeirra 10.13.6
SketchUp Pro 2018, Version 18.0.16976

@fredo6 said:

PS: For the translation, very kind of you. Thank you. Actually, in v1.1a, not all strings are exposed yet, so there will be a remaining part (same for LibFredo6)

Ok, I will translate it when you add all strings.

pilou · 7 Sept 2018, 20:05

Are you interested by the French version ?

fredo6 · 7 Sept 2018, 21:02

@pilou said:

Are you interested by the French version ?

Pilou,

Thanks, I think I will manage. The point is that I did not expose yet all the strings.

Fredo

fredo6 · 7 Sept 2018, 21:16

@cmd said:

Hello Fredo. Great stuff!! Thanks for building this.

I am seeing a possible bug. --> Except for zoom, I am not able to navigate the model with my mouse while FredoCorner is active. To be specific, Pan (Middle mouse button + shift) and Orbit (Middle mouse button) do not work via the mouse controls.

Navigation DOES work while using your Round Corner extension

Mac HighSeirra 10.13.6
SketchUp Pro 2018, Version 18.0.16976

Cheers
CMD

Well, Yes, I should have thought that Macs would have a problem with this, probably in relation with the values of flags in the mouse events, which I forgot are not the same as on Windows.

Could a Mac user does the following:

Copy the attached rb file TestMacMouse.rb ito its Plugin directory
Open the Ruby console and type flag_mac. This starts a dummy tool tracing the Move and Middle button events
Press the Middle Mouse button, move around and release. Type Spacebar to end the test
Reply to this post with what is displayed in the Ruby console

Thanks in advance.

And sorry for inconvenience for Mac users.

Fredo

TestMacMouse.rb

pilou · 7 Sept 2018, 21:20

@Fredo : Pas de problème, d'ailleurs je n'avais même pas trouvé le fichier!
Windows est un tel labyrinthe !

fredo6 · 7 Sept 2018, 21:35

On ORBITING on MAC.

I jut published LibFredo6 8.6b , where I tried 'blindly' to fix the problem of Orbiting on Mac.
Thanks to advise

Fredo

fredo6 · 7 Sept 2018, 21:37

@pilou said:

@Fredo : Pas de problème, d'ailleurs je n'avais même pas trouvé le fichier!
Windows est un tel labyrinthe !

Actually, in my plugins, you translate from within the plugin, not from files: Menu "Language Translation".

But don't worry I'll take care of French in due time.

Fredo

dihe · 7 Sept 2018, 21:43

Tank you Fredo,
Variable offset is grate thing!
Grate job!

fredo6 · 7 Sept 2018, 22:10

NEW RELEASE: FredoCorner v1.1a - 06 Sep 18

FredoCorner 1.1a is the first public release.

Requirement: LibFredo6 8.6b

Please note that:

there are known issues and likely bugs here and there
This concerns in particular the Collision, i.e. when the offset is too large.
Terminal corners (that is with a single edge) may present issues and bugs
Variable offset tools are experimental
No documentation yet, so watch the videos that I will publish.

Please report issues, questions and any feedback in the present thread

Home Page of FredoCorner for information and Download.

Main post of this FredoCorner thread .

cmd · 7 Sept 2018, 22:23

@fredo6 said:

Reply to this post with what is displayed in the Ruby console

Fredo,

Your TestMacMouse.rb test results are below:

MButton down flags = 33554432
OnMouseMove flags = 33554432
MButton Up flags = 0

Also, after installing LibFredo6 8.6b, the Pan & Orbit bug appears to be fixed

I hope this helps

CMD

fredo6 · 8 Sept 2018, 08:23

@cmd said:

Also, after installing LibFredo6 8.6b, the Pan & Orbit bug appears to be fixed

I hope this helps

CMD

Many thanks. Very helpful indeed.

Fredo

fredo6 · 8 Sept 2018, 09:35

NEW RELEASE: FredoCorner v1.1b - 08 Sep 18

FredoCorner 1.1b includes a fix for the orbiting on Mac platforms, as well as a first translation in Spanish by Oxer.

Requirement: LibFredo6 8.6c

Please note that:

there are known issues and likely bugs here and there
This concerns in particular Collisions, i.e. when the offset is too large.
Terminal corners (that is ending on a single edge) may present issues and bugs
Variable offset tools are experimental
No documentation yet, so watch the videos that I will publish.

Please report issues, questions and any feedback in the present thread

Home Page of FredoCorner for information and Download.

Main post of this FredoCorner thread .