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    • C Offline
      CalypsoArt
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      I built my new machine two months ago and the parts I transferred from the old was my 1TB data drive and the video card. AMD Firepro V5900. I'm getting some minor video errors in SU and AutoCad that I did not have before. Nothing I can't live with, I'm beginning to think I should upgrade the card. (It was released in 2011) I read that nVidia cards work better with SU and Rhino, was wondering if a Quadro P1000 might be a good choice? Anyone know the differences between the Quadro K line vs the P line? At any rate I'm up for suggestions.

      The pic is an example of the minor display problems. This is in SU.

      http://calypsotheatrical.com/link_images/SOFTEN.JPG

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      • Dave RD Offline
        Dave R
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        At least for SketchUp, the GeForce cards will give you more bang for the bug than the Quadro cards. A GTX10** would be a good choice.

        As for what you show in your screen shot, I'm not sure you can blame that on the graphics card although if you haven't done so, make sure the drivers are up to date.

        When you installed SketchUp, did you right click on the installer file and select Run as administrator? If you didn't, do that next and when you are presented with the option, choose Repair.

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          CalypsoArt
          last edited by

          @dave r said:

          At least for SketchUp, the GeForce cards will give you more bang for the bug than the Quadro cards. A GTX10** would be a good choice.

          As for what you show in your screen shot, I'm not sure you can blame that on the graphics card although if you haven't done so, make sure the drivers are up to date.

          When you installed SketchUp, did you right click on the installer file and select Run as administrator? If you didn't, do that next and when you are presented with the option, choose Repair.

          Thanks for the response. Repair didn't help.

          Also, what do you think are the benefits of the GTX over the Quadros? They seem to have price similar price points and look like a bigger footprint. (My machine is an ITX box)

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          • jujuJ Offline
            juju
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            @calypsoart said:

            Also, what do you think are the benefits of the GTX over the Quadros? They seem to have price similar price points and look like a bigger footprint. (My machine is an ITX box)

            In order to fully benefit from Quadro cards you'll need to have drivers for the software you wish to use. No such drivers exist (to my knowledge) for SketchUp and I recently read somewhere that it has been a few years since similar drivers were available for other popular software.

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            • Rich O BrienR Offline
              Rich O Brien Moderator
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              Quadros are meant for professionals.

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              • sketch3d.deS Offline
                sketch3d.de
                last edited by

                @calypsoart said:

                Also, what do you think are the benefits of the GTX over the Quadros? They seem to have price similar price points and look like a bigger footprint.

                the models of the CAD series (nVidia Quadro, AMD FirePro) of comparable performance are regularly more expensive than the consumer series (nVidia GeForce, AMD Radeon). If comparing in the same price range the Quadro will be slower resp. the GeForce will be faster and therefore have a bigger footprint.

                You may want compare performance here.

                in short, don't use AMD Radeons (flaky OpenGL support), don't use expensive CAD models (no advantage for SU).

                P.S.: please avoid senseless full quotes, tia.

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                  CalypsoArt
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                  @sketch3d.de said:

                  the models of the CAD series (nVidia Quadro, AMD FirePro) of comparable performance are regularly more expensive than the consumer series (nVidia GeForce, AMD Radeon). If comparing in the same price range the Quadro will be slower resp. the GeForce will be faster and therefore have a bigger footprint.

                  I'm currently finding this to be correct as I do research. However, in the past it was easier to find FirePros cheaper than Radeons.

                  The Power consumption is important for my ITX machine with its small PSU. At this point I'm looking at the Quadro P1000 which draws 47w. I'll see if an equivalent GTX 10XX can be had for less.

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                  • GD3DesignG Offline
                    GD3Design
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                    I would recommend you look at the GTX 1050 ti. They draw just 75W and don't even need a power cable from the PSU, they're powered straight through the PCI slot. Also has some pretty nice minimal form-factors which vary between vendors, so look around at the model's dimensions...some are more compact models than others.
                    Just took a look on Amazon and they can be had for between $170 - $230 USD at the moment, and it has all the horsepower you'll need for sketchup. Definitely wouldn't recommend a Quadro unless you're using solidworks or catia...or some other crazy software that states you HAVE to have a Quadro to run it. The bang for the buck with GTX vs Quadro is a no-brainer these days. A good rule of thumb is, if you needed a quadro...you'd know it. The P1000 would basically give you a slower card with less cuda cores & clock rates at almost twice the price.
                    I've been using GTX cards for years with autocad, 3ds max, photoshop, etc and haven't had any problems..and have saved a lot money not buying quadros.

                    Good luck getting your rig sorted. Cheers!
                    GD

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                    • sketch3d.deS Offline
                      sketch3d.de
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                      @calypsoart said:

                      I'm currently finding this to be correct as I do research. However, in the past it was easier to find FirePros cheaper than Radeons.

                      FirePros were never cheaper than Radeons of comparable performance... besides maybe the last time because of the mining hype.

                      @calypsoart said:

                      ...I'm looking at the Quadro P1000 which draws 47w. I'll see if an equivalent GTX 10XX can be had for less.

                      The GTX 1050Ti (TDP 75W covered by PCIe slot) is approx. 10% faster than a Quadro P1000 and available from MSI and Gigaybte as low-profile version (covering 2 slots) starting at roughly 175 bucks (P1000: ~340 bucks).

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