3D Truss Models

medeek · 17 Feb 2018, 18:55

Please report any issues with the gambrel attic truss type (windows or mac). When I make major changes to a module it is quite easy to break something and not even realize it.

I do my best to test the plugin in all possible states and permutations but I can never get all of them.

facer · 18 Feb 2018, 05:53

Medeek plugin for SketchUp - view 3d model on any web device, VR cardboard or headset

Have a real "fun" look around and see the results possible now with current web browsers!

Attached Kubity link of 3d model that can be viewed by any web device.

Note also VR cardboard or headset viewing available.

LINK to 3d Model for viewing:
https://www.kubity.com/p/kOfmnT

Model by Medeek
http://design.medeek.com

medeek · 18 Feb 2018, 12:26

The crow's beak for the gambrel attic roof has been on my todo list for about a year and a half now. Grateful that I was able to somehow find the time to put this one together tonight.

The projection of the crows beak and the length along the rake can both be set by the user.

I will roll this out tomorrow as 2.1.5b once I've finished testing it.

View model here:

3D Warehouse

3D Warehouse is a website of searchable, pre-made 3D models that works seamlessly with SketchUp.

(3dwarehouse.sketchup.com)

medeek · 18 Feb 2018, 21:46

I've added in thumbnails to the sheathing tab of the global settings so the user can preview the wall and roof cladding materials:

medeek · 18 Feb 2018, 22:12

Version 2.1.5b - 02/18/2018

Added a crow's beak option for gambrel attic trusses.
Added thumbnails for wall and roof materials in the sheathing tab of the global settings.

medeek · 19 Feb 2018, 06:44

This barn is very similar to the one we had at our first farm in Terrace B.C. Canada:

Foundation was created with the foundation plugin.

View model here:

3D Warehouse

3D Warehouse is a website of searchable, pre-made 3D models that works seamlessly with SketchUp.

(3dwarehouse.sketchup.com)

medeek · 19 Feb 2018, 19:59

The thing I find very interesting with the gambrel roof is the two pitches, whereas with your typical gable roof you only have one pitch and each side of the roof is simply the hypotenuse of half the span and the height of the peak.

With a gambrel roof you have the two legs of the roof and the two pitches and an infinite number of possible combinations and hence a large variety in the shape of the gambrel roof.

Ultimately this led me to create the HTML/SVG preview panel so that the user can play with the various parameters until the desired gambrel shape is achieved. I believe this is where the real power in this plugin in manifest, in situations where an architectural element can be realized by incrementally adjusting parameters within the user interface.

A common truss is much more simpler than the gambrel but a similar preview screen would be helpful in my opinion.

medeek · 20 Feb 2018, 17:16

As I was creating the various test models for the gambrel attic truss yesterday I realized that the color I had initially set for the gypsum material was slightly off white, which for my particular case was just fine. However, after giving it second thought I realized that the gypsum color (material) should also be configurable so I added in one additional setting into the sheathing tab.

Then my 13 year old son (Jared) suggested that I implement some sort of color picker since most people don't equate a hexadecimal RGB value with any particular color (ie. #FF2C9F). I found a simple javascript based color picker and modified it to fit my needs, hopefully this is somewhat helpful.

Under the materials tab I will probably implement similar options where one can modify the color of the lumber and the pressure treated lumber. For now I will probably keep the plywood and the OSB material/texture as default. If someone really wants to modify those it is simply a matter of replacing the .jpg image with their own custom image within the plugin folder.

Since javascript tends to be a bit browser dependent I am curious how well this works on MacOS with the background browser running as Safari, please let me know if there are any issues.

The color boxes at the bottom of the color picker provide some shades of grey as well as the default Medeek colors for: lumber, pressure treated lumber, gypsum.

This minor update is rolled into 2.1.5c in the PluginStore.

medeek · 20 Feb 2018, 20:56

I took a step back today and pulled my head out of the sand, so to speak.

The truss plugin does some pretty cool stuff and its fairly detailed where I've fleshed out certain truss and roof types. However, it is missing one major feature or has a major flaw depending on how you want to word it.

Currently the plugin is "fire and forget", with no ability to edit an existing roof or floor assembly. This needs to change.

I have a mental picture of how I want to handle this but there may be some flaws with my thinking.

I briefly discussed this with a few others at this thread:

Right Click Menu Items

I’ve noticed with some plugins that when you create something within them you can then right click on the object and plugin specific items are shown in that menu. I would like to do something like that for the truss and…

SketchUp Community (forums.sketchup.com)

My idea is to right click on a roof or floor assembly, then click "Edit Assembly" at which point the plugin will bring up a very concise list of parameters for the assembly. Changing any one of the various parameters or settings will essentially redraw the entire (roof, truss, floor, dormer) assembly. The list will remain open after each edit and only be closed if the user decides to close it.

Any manual edits made to the assembly will of course be lost but this is the price of having a fully editable assembly.

I think I can implement this fairly easily, the various modules are all utilized the same as when I originally created the assembly, the only difference being the user interface.

dpaul · 21 Feb 2018, 01:20

Excellent. Been waiting for this.........

facer · 21 Feb 2018, 04:14

Save parameters of truss type for later use (modification)

Ideally one could save the parameters for a truss type and then
install in future for another project with similar or slight variations.

Hence a library of truss types and associated detailscould be
created by the user for repeative projects.

This would be ideal for builders constructing repeative building types
with sight variations.

medeek · 21 Feb 2018, 14:12

I like the idea of saved config files or templates, I will give this some more thought.

medeek · 26 Feb 2018, 16:47

Making some good progress on the "edit" function. I will initially start with the common trusses and then once I am satisfied that those trusses are running stable I will begin to make this feature available for all other truss, rafter and floor assemblies.

I'm a little bogged down with the advanced options (there are too many) but it is just a matter of putting in the time and slogging through all of the data entry and HTML and javascript. Probably by the end of the week I should have something ready to go and I will roll a release so everyone can begin testing it.

medeek · 26 Feb 2018, 20:07

Has anyone had much experience with SIP walls? I've been looking at the product offering of Eco Panel:

Eco-Panels - Strong and Efficient Building Panels | Homepage

Building a new home? Eco-Panels offers modular building panels that are stronger & safer than stud frame construction for about the same price.

Eco-Panels (www.eco-panels.com)

and I am fairly curious about this product.

KrisM · 27 Feb 2018, 01:22

I'm quite familiar with SIPs. They definitely have their pluses and minuses. They certainly aren't cheap but can be quite effective if installed properly. The key here is that contrary to the suggestion from Eco Panels that low priced labour can erect their product, there better be someone on site who really knows what they are doing. I have seen some bad installs (not Eco Panel's products) and the long term implications are quite serious. While I have been a promoter of SIPs in the past, I think there are easier and cheaper ways to get good R values.

medeek · 2 Mar 2018, 14:32

Version 2.1.6 - 03.02.2018

Added Soffit Cut within Advanced Options for Hip Rafter Roofs.

medeek · 3 Mar 2018, 22:55

Version 2.1.6b - 03.02.2018

Added Soffit Cut within Advanced Options for all Shed type Rafter Roofs.
Added gutters for all Shed type Rafter Roofs.

medeek · 5 Mar 2018, 16:21

The edit feature is slowly coming to fruition. I've added so many advanced options to the common truss type that it is quite an ordeal to even put together the HTML form that fully encompasses all of this information and does it in an organized and neat manner. There is a possibility of 72 unique (user entered) parameters for a common truss assembly. Some of these are dependent on others, its an interesting web of dependencies (spaghetti) that must be taken into account for the edit feature to work properly. I've probably got another week just in debugging before I am ready to release the first version of this feature.

pbacot · 5 Mar 2018, 17:36

Models look high quality. I hope you have ability for multiple Presets so that a type of roof that users use all the time can be saved.

medeek · 5 Mar 2018, 18:14

A number of presets can be set by the user in the global settings however I have not fully implemented a "store" function that will take an entire roof configuration and store it as a preset roof assembly. This may be another feature that I add.